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Old 04-01-2023, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Austin Metroplex, SF Bay Area
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Affordable housing, as defined by HUD: https://archives.hud.gov/local/nv/go...-04-06glos.cfm



California can produce affordable housing, but this would require building a lot more multifamily housing. Things like 5-6 store apartment buildings.
And that's HUDs definition. So what. That doesn't mean it's everyone's and that term means different things to different people. And no one escapes the repercussions. There is no situation where a win-win will ever occur. Arguing about it is an exercise in futility.
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Old 04-01-2023, 12:24 PM
 
Location: LA County
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Are they getting that much less from residential property taxes as opposed to commercial?

The Property Tax Base Is Diverse. Property taxes and charges are imposed on many types of property. For the 1 percent rate, owner–occupied residential properties represent about 39 percent of the state’s assessed value, followed by investment and vacation residential properties (34 percent) and commercial properties (28 percent).

https://lao.ca.gov/reports/2012/tax/...0(28%20percent).

Not on the property tax side, but from the sales taxes
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Old 04-01-2023, 12:27 PM
 
Location: LA County
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And that's HUDs definition. So what. That doesn't mean it's everyone's and that term means different things to different people. And no one escapes the repercussions. There is no situation where a win-win will ever occur. Arguing about it is an exercise in futility.
To some people it means state subsidized or owned housing that keeps rent low.

There isn't enough money to build enough of it. It would blow up the budget.

Most people live in regular privately built housing. We just need to let developers build a lot more. Which is what other states do.
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Old 04-01-2023, 12:31 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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To some people it means state subsidized or owned housing that keeps rent low.

There isn't enough money to build enough of it. It would blow up the budget.

Most people live in regular privately built housing. We just need to let developers build a lot more. Which is what other states do.
… other states without populations of 40 million stressing resources and overcrowding of all desirable areas
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Old 04-01-2023, 12:43 PM
 
Location: LA County
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… other states without populations of 40 million stressing resources and overcrowding of all desirable areas
Texas has grown from 26 million people to 30 million people in the past decade and no sign of slowing growth or limitations (except Austin which adopted California policies). In fact its growth is accelerating

Houston and Dallas median home price have gone up but still below $400k
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Old 04-01-2023, 01:15 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Texas has grown from 26 million people to 30 million people in the past decade and no sign of slowing growth or limitations (except Austin which adopted California policies). In fact its growth is accelerating

Houston and Dallas median home price have gone up but still below $400k
Is that supposed to somehow rebut what I wrote? Because it doesn’t.
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Old 04-01-2023, 01:45 PM
 
Location: LA County
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Is that supposed to somehow rebut what I wrote? Because it doesn’t.

Yes
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Old 04-01-2023, 02:17 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Yes
No, it doesn’t. Texas has virtually unlimited developable land. California has a completely different landscape and climate and access to resources, all affecting desirability and functionality factors. Plus its considerably higher population. Put California’s 25% greater numbers in geographical perspective. When CA had only 30 million population, it had not yet reached its current levels of frustration and challenge.

Context matters.
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Old 04-01-2023, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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There's 3 ways to get this in balance~

1. Build more houses.

2. Kill more people, quicker.

2a.Limit children to 1 per 2 adults.
(Not 11 like an extremely selfish cult follower.)

3. A combo of # 1 and #2.

That's how it gets in balance.
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Old 04-01-2023, 02:32 PM
 
Location: LA County
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No, it doesn’t. Texas has virtually unlimited developable land. California has a completely different landscape and climate and access to resources, all affecting desirability and functionality factors. Plus its considerably higher population. Put California’s 25% greater numbers in geographical perspective. When CA had only 30 million population, it had not yet reached its current levels of frustration and challenge.

Context matters.

What access to resources?

There's plenty of land. California is huge.
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