Coronavirus (Los Angeles: calculating, home, pool)

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Probably because 79.7% of Los Angeles county residents have received only one dose of the vaccine. "Fully vaccinated" is meant to include those who've received 2 doses, but the term doesn't include boosters. Two doses is apparently not effective against the two subvariants that are now circulating (info upthread).

You need to look at the whole picture though. That's why I said when you couple the vaccination rate with the 0.2% hospitalization (and 0.03% deaths), it's not exactly alarming. It actually underscores the point that much more. In other words, if we can achieve those numbers with 72% "fully vaccinated", (and the statewide rate is even higher) why are we worrying so much about a surge that has repeated itself this time of year, every year? The state abandoned those metrics for a reason.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

.03 I'm not a numbers guy but that doesn't sound large

It depends on the number by which you multiply that 0.03%.

Originally Posted by joosoon

You need to look at the whole picture though. That's why I said when you couple the vaccination rate with the 0.2% hospitalization (and 0.03% deaths), it's not exactly alarming. It actually underscores the point that much more. In other words, if we can achieve those numbers with 72% "fully vaccinated", why are we worrying so much about a surge that has repeated itself this time of year, every year? The state abandoned those metrics for a reason.

The newer variants are more infectious, resulting in more cases to apply that 0.03% by.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

It depends on the number by which you multiply that 0.03%.



The newer variants are more infectious, resulting in more cases to apply that 0.03% by.

It also depends on the accuracy of the data, which has been suspect from day one. This is what happens when you get Federal aid for putting died from covid on a death certificate.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

It depends on the number by which you multiply that 0.03%.



The newer variants are more infectious, resulting in more cases to apply that 0.03% by.

Nope. Reread the quote. Of the 7M vaccinated residents, 0.2% hospitalized and 0.03% are deaths.


Put another way, of the nearly 7 million L.A. County residents who have completed their primary vaccination series, about 13% have tested positive in results sent to government officials, 0.2% have been hospitalized and 0.03% have died.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

It also depends on the accuracy of the data, which has been suspect from day one. This is what happens when you get Federal aid for putting died from covid on a death certificate.

There is no Federal aid for putting covid on a death certificate.

Originally Posted by joosoon

Nope. Reread the quote. Of the 7M vaccinated residents, 0.2% hospitalized and 0.03% are deaths.


Put another way, of the nearly 7 million L.A. County residents who have completed their primary vaccination series, about 13% have tested positive in results sent to government officials, 0.2% have been hospitalized and 0.03% have died.

That means 2100 vaccinated have died. How many unvaccinated?

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Nope. Reread the quote. Of the 7M vaccinated residents, 0.2% hospitalized and 0.03% are deaths.

"Put another way, of the nearly 7 million L.A. County residents who have completed their primary vaccination series, about 13% have tested positive..."

I'm no scientist, but given that the other 3 million people in L.A. County aren't vaccinated, what they're probably worried about is that given the higher rate of transmission, there will be a greater chance of virus mutation and we'll be stuck with another highly transmissible subvariant.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

There is no Federal aid for putting covid on a death certificate.



That means 2100 vaccinated have died. How many unvaccinated?

Not anymore.https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/f...ce-updated.pdf

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

That means 2100 vaccinated have died.

Where do you keep pulling these figures from? Maybe you're confused. The quote is from that LAT article. There haven't been 2100 covid deaths in LA county over the last 5 months.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Where do you keep pulling these figures from? Maybe you're confused. The quote is from that LAT article. There haven't been 2100 covid deaths in LA county over the last 5 months.

From what you posted

"Put another way, of the nearly 7 million L.A. County residents who have completed their primary vaccination series, about 13% have tested positive in results sent to government officials, 0.2% have been hospitalized and 0.03% have died."

[KaraG]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

It also depends on the accuracy of the data, which has been suspect from day one. This is what happens when you get Federal aid for putting died from covid on a death certificate.

The data is not reliable at all now, people in the US are testing at home.