Coronavirus (live, law, safe)

[MechAndy]

I’m in agreement with you too gh

[joosoon]

Back in reality world:
There's over a thousand absences now from this super bug spreading through one (in particular) area high schools in my district. It's not covid, but something akin to/suspected to be the flu. Hearing it directly from parents, sounds like flu too.



Dr. Bradley said recently the hospital has seen more emergency room visits because of flu and respiratory syncytial virus, or RSV. It is not a new virus but causing more disease. Bradley said that is because during COVID-19 lockdown kids were not getting exposed to the common viruses and, therefore, could not build up their immunity

Bradley said, “the number of kids who are susceptible to these viruses is far greater now than the usual year pre-pandemic. So these viruses are spreading thru the community, all of them, with lighting speed.”


District data indicates there were five positive covid cases in the last week at PHH. So 995+ absences for 'other'.
Oh, and then there's this, for those of us who can read the tea leaves.

[goodheathen]

Sure, let's let schools spread a potentially deadly disease throughout the community lest keeping kids home makes them more susceptible to stomach flu for a few years

Just because a doctor says something doesn't mean it's true. Another possibility is that COVID-weakened immune systems are leading to infections that are more severe than usual.

Regardless, schools need to be more prepared for rapid spread of disease. Better ventilation, smaller classes, testing for illnesses for which that's doable (routinely test for COVID-19 now), plans for how kids can learn remotely, ongoing vaccination even if learning is remote.... Also, schools probably need to start fining parents for sending sick kids to school and get over the perfect-attendance obsession.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Back in reality world:
There's over a thousand absences now from this super bug spreading through one (in particular) area high schools in my district. It's not covid, but something akin to/suspected to be the flu. Hearing it directly from parents, sounds like flu too.



Dr. Bradley said recently the hospital has seen more emergency room visits because of flu and respiratory syncytial virus, or RSV. It is not a new virus but causing more disease. Bradley said that is because during COVID-19 lockdown kids were not getting exposed to the common viruses and, therefore, could not build up their immunity

Bradley said, “the number of kids who are susceptible to these viruses is far greater now than the usual year pre-pandemic. So these viruses are spreading thru the community, all of them, with lighting speed.”


District data indicates there were five positive covid cases in the last week at PHH. So 995+ absences for 'other'.
Oh, and then there's this, for those of us who can read the tea leaves.

I always thought it was odd people would brag about having not gotten sick in a year or two attributing it to various COVID mitigation measures, particularly masking. Or the people obsessed with sanitization even after it was show to do nothing for COVID. Getting sick and germs are a normal part of life and helps build immunity.

[KaraG]

Originally Posted by sav858

I always thought it was odd people would brag about having not gotten sick in a year or two attributing it to various COVID mitigation measures, particularly masking. Or the people obsessed with sanitization even after it was show to do nothing for COVID. Getting sick and germs are a normal part of life and helps build immunity.

Agree.

And for those of us who DID get sick and tested negative, what did we have? LOL. I always loved the news stories that flus and colds and other viruses didn't happen. Yes they did. Everyone who was sick who tested negative had something. By the time they got their PCR results, they were probably better.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by sav858

I always thought it was odd people would brag about having not gotten sick in a year or two attributing it to various COVID mitigation measures, particularly masking. Or the people obsessed with sanitization even after it was show to do nothing for COVID. Getting sick and germs are a normal part of life and helps build immunity.

All the hand sanitizer stations look pretty silly now, sitting in the storage spaces at the schools I work.
But anyway, CDC is saying that the two year lull in flu cases has the potential to drive the numbers up this season:



While the timing and severity of the upcoming flu season cannot be predicted, the United States has experienced little flu for the past two seasons. Reduced population immunity, particularly among young children who may never have had flu exposure or been vaccinated, could bring about a robust return of flu. CDC is particularly concerned about drops in flu vaccine coverage in the past two years among higher risk groups, including children and pregnant people. ILI visits at this time are highest among children 0-4 years, followed by people 5-24 years. Often flu activity first increases in children and then spreads to older age groups.


There's clearly consequences when that normal part of life goes missing.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by Carpenter858

Can't believe I gave you rep, but I'm in agreement with you 100%.

And now I'm agreeing with CA4Now about GH contradicting herself. What is happening!?

[joosoon]

Covid case numbers still on the slide.

Meanwhile the *real* winter surge is happening and mostly affecting children.


RSV cases can often fill hospitals, even in regular seasons, since there aren’t many treatments and it can require several days of supportive care in severe cases, Edwards said. Ill children “need that oxygen support, so they can’t be at home,” she said. Experts think US cases may be spiking now because of the phase of the Covid-19 pandemic that we’re in. When everyone stayed home in 2020 and 2021 to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, it seemed to change the typical RSV season. Case counts were low, and that created an “immunity gap.” Kids who normally would have caught the virus in those years are instead catching it now

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Food for thought: has any government ended any pandemic mostly with its tactics as opposed to pandemics primarily ending on their own?

The 1918 flu: After about one-third of the global population became infected and roughly 50 million people died, the virus ran out of steam. Those who survived had immunity, and the virus gained mutations that made it less virulent. Descendants of the pandemic strain are still with us today.

Polio: was eradicated in the U.S. by 1979, with the help of the vaccine invented by Jonas Salk.

Smallpox: Edward Jenner developed a smallpox vaccine in England in 1796, and vaccines ultimately spread around the globe. In 1980, the World Health Organization declared smallpox eradicated.

HIV/AIDS: Deaths peaked in 1995 at about 50,000, then decreased steadily thanks to two things: effective prevention measures and new medications that are capable of knocking back the virus to undetectable levels. Work continues on an HIV vaccine.

SARS: A total of 8,098 people became infected worldwide during the 2002-2003 outbreak, and 774 died. SARS stopped spreading before scientists had a chance to create treatments or vaccines.

H1N1 flu: Existing medicines, including Tamiflu, were still largely effective, and it took about six months to ready a vaccine targeted to the new strain. The pandemic was declared over in August 2010, but versions of the flu are still among us.

Coronavirus Today: How past pandemics came to an end:
https://www.latimes.com/science/news...onavirus-today

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

The 1918 flu: After about one-third of the global population became infected and roughly 50 million people died, the virus ran out of steam. Those who survived had immunity, and the virus gained mutations that made it less virulent. Descendants of the pandemic strain are still with us today.

Polio: was eradicated in the U.S. by 1979, with the help of the vaccine invented by Jonas Salk.

Smallpox: Edward Jenner developed a smallpox vaccine in England in 1796, and vaccines ultimately spread around the globe. In 1980, the World Health Organization declared smallpox eradicated.

HIV/AIDS: Deaths peaked in 1995 at about 50,000, then decreased steadily thanks to two things: effective prevention measures and new medications that are capable of knocking back the virus to undetectable levels. Work continues on an HIV vaccine.

SARS: A total of 8,098 people became infected worldwide during the 2002-2003 outbreak, and 774 died. SARS stopped spreading before scientists had a chance to create treatments or vaccines.

H1N1 flu: Existing medicines, including Tamiflu, were still largely effective, and it took about six months to ready a vaccine targeted to the new strain. The pandemic was declared over in August 2010, but versions of the flu are still among us.

Coronavirus Today: How past pandemics came to an end:
https://www.latimes.com/science/news...onavirus-today

Polio's success story has been diminished this year by the reemergence, the vaccine version. My guess is that happened before in this country without anyone noticing.

Probably all pandemic where manmade decisions helped stop them involved hygiene to a large degree.
https://rootsofprogress.org/draining-the-swamp
Which isn't the case in 2022 (dirty air), hence this isn't about to end.

HIV/AIDs isn't much of a success story and remains a major financial burden, but it does point toward drugs that block transmission as a key to greatly reducing the spread of COVID-19.