Coronavirus (credit, schools, live)

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Soujouner

Considering there is no evidence of masks reducing Covid cases, yeah, mask mandates isn’t a good idea. Also, masks collect bacteria and fungi. No thanks, I rather get Covid. It’s just a head cold.

I agree about the mandates. Knowing now what we didn't know then, wearing a mask seemed fairly pointless but if it makes others feel better, go ahead and wear it.

I think Covid is a bit more than a head cold, though. Not sure why some aren't affected severely while others wind up in the hospital with pneumonia. Again, I think it has to do with one's own immune system and overall health and whether you're prone to respiratory issues.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

In her defense, she really had no choice.

There's always a choice when it comes to being honest. Tragically, few choose honesty.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

After reading Dr. Birx's book, I don't think any city, county, or state leader is going to try and re-enact mask mandates. They'd be committing suicide to their political career if they did. People have wised up and if they haven't read her book, they should. She admits she made up a lot of information she spewed on television. I think her book is a confession to assuage her guilty conscience.

The saddest part of all of this is all those people who died in the hospital without a loved one to hold their hand, be by their side. Sure, they died of Covid but they also had underlying health issues that exacerbated it. No one in the news liked sharing that bit of information. Now we live with people still living in fear, afraid to go outside. Afraid to have a life worth living. What was done to people in this country is nothing more than evil.

San Diego County just did. I hope the leaders committed political suicide.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

There's always a choice when it comes to being honest.

Apparently not under that kind of pressure. https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/28/polit...all/index.html

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

San Diego County just did. I hope the leaders committed political suicide.

San Diego Unified School District, not San Diego County.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

Theoretically if it was just the hospital setting the policy sure. But our lovely health departments are actually responsible in this case. So again we've got jaded beauracrats/politicians setting policy for Californians health, and all it ends up doing is making the situation worse.

That's a hang-up of yours (government oversight as bad). I hadn't heard health departments set the visitors policy, but if true, it was done sensibly, almost definitely with strong input from hospitals and likely to make things happen fast and uniformly. Hospitals probably prefer to say "We can't make an exception, it's government policy" over arguing with families.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

I'm pretty sure a number of people here know that. After all, you are the same person who thought sending kids off to boarding school to isolate them was a great idea. Coming from someone who doesn't have children, it's understandable why you wouldn't know what a horrible idea that would be.

You of course fill in blanks with guesses that make me look bad. I didn't say to force kids to do that. In fact, let them visit boarding schools first to help choose. See if they feel like military schools or something much more pleasant than that. Many older children would prefer to hang out with peers over family. Few parents fret that they can't handle summer camp. What people should fret is likely no Omicron-updated vaccines for most children this coming semester and the virus as rampant as ever and the youths in for bad experiences that might include multiple infections. Boarding schools probably are safest for kids from the virus who wouldn't do well in remote learning

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Women were not giving birth alone. The restriction was that while spouses or significant others were able to come into the hospital to be with them in labor and delivery, if they left the hospital, they could not return.

That was after significant fighting. Originally they did actually give birth alone.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

If our double vaxxed, boosted, mask wearing POTUS got covid I don't see how little kids in school aren't going to mask or no mask.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

That was after significant fighting. Originally they did actually give birth alone.

You may be thinking of the UK. (Our sister-in-law and the daughters of three friends gave birth in 2020. Not a one was alone during labor or delivery.)

https://inews.co.uk/news/mothers-for...ctions-1403949