Universal Health Care ! CA (San Francisco, Sacramento: cinema, college, DMV)

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Tall Traveler

I hope cali gives it a try. We need a successful model for the country and historically Cali has led the way, why not again?

It has led the Country both in good and bad. Sooo, which will this turn out to be??? A previous post showed it is virtually impossible due to the Billions it will cost.

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by janellen

annual cost at $400 billion,

the correct computation is to compute only the cost of insuring those who really cant afford


most of us already have an insurance and paying for it thru employers. and whether single insurance provider or not, we will continue to pay for it

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by payutenyodagimas

the correct computation is to compute only the cost of insuring those who really cant afford


most of us already have an insurance and paying for it thru employers. and whether single insurance provider or not, we will continue to pay for it

Humm, maybe a lot of people would take the pay increase and give up the medical and that would just increase the cost. Plus businesses could drop coverage and let the employees be on the State plan.

[Social Democrat]

Originally Posted by Tall Traveler

I hope cali gives it a try. We need a successful model for the country and historically Cali has led the way, why not again?

Give it a try in washi first and let us know how it works before we try it in California.

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Humm, maybe a lot of people would take the pay increase and give up the medical and that would just increase the cost. Plus businesses could drop coverage and let the employees be on the State plan.

no state however libertarian would drop the requirement that employers would shoulder part of the cost of health insurance

[Inter441]

All industrialized nations have universal healthcare . ..Why not California forgot about the rest of the U.S they are still stubborn and are used to gouge people especially the current administration.

The times has come in the far future almost the jobs is going to be automated.

Healthy society = productive society , people will able to work efficiently and put the money back into the economy by spending more.

[davidt1]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Humm, maybe a lot of people would take the pay increase and give up the medical and that would just increase the cost. Plus businesses could drop coverage and let the employees be on the State plan.

For any single payer plan to work, everyone has to be in the risk pool. It's a given that employers will asked to hand over the money they are now paying for their employees' health insurance to the state.

There are some unanswered questions such as: What is the real and final cost of this program? Can hard working Californians even afford to pay for the roughly 3 million illegal aliens' and many others? How much of the health care money will be stolen to pay for public employee benefits and pension?

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by davidt1

For any single payer plan to work, everyone has to be in the risk pool. It's a given that employers will asked to hand over the money they are now paying for their employees' health insurance to the state.

There are some unanswered questions such as: What is the real and final cost of this program? Can hard working Californians even afford to pay for the roughly 3 million illegal aliens' and many others? How much of the health care money will be stolen to pay for public employee benefits and pension?

we are paying for them indirectly thru higher billings by hospitals and higher rates by insurance

[Inter441]

Originally Posted by davidt1

For any single payer plan to work, everyone has to be in the risk pool. It's a given that employers will asked to hand over the money they are now paying for their employees' health insurance to the state.

There are some unanswered questions such as: What is the real and final cost of this program? Can hard working Californians even afford to pay for the roughly 3 million illegal aliens' and many others? How much of the health care money will be stolen to pay for public employee benefits and pension?

First all they are undocumented immigrants !
2nd of all they are already paying taxes therefore it make sense for them to benefit as well since they are already paying taxes .






https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...lions-in-taxes

[Inter441]

Universal health care becomes a real possibility in the Golden State - by alix-rosenthal - The San Francisco Examiner


California lawmakers introduce single-payer health care plan today


As usual California being a progressive State is debating to provide universal healthcare for all . Senate Bill 562’s


After the Congress got rid of affordable health care and millions might lose health care coverage due to their anti social care policy.




Yes, I am aware we are going to pay more taxes but the bottom line is we are already paying more taxes in CA and not getting decent health care coverage from the greedy insurance providers or worse those people working part time no healthcare for them .


Please share your thoughts ?