Snapshot of the Reagan legacy (Country Club, Grenada: credit, unemployment, theater)

[nullgeo]

California's favorite son?

"Tomorrow will mark the 100th anniversary of President Reagan’s birth, and all week, conservatives have been trying to outdo each others’ remembrances of the great conservative icon.

1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser.
2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit.
3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts.
4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously.
5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose.
6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.”
7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants.
8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran.
9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act.
10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden."


If you don't like the source, at least check the facts from other sources before ranting your denials.

ThinkProgress » 10 Things Conservatives Don’t Want You To Know About Ronald Reagan

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

California's favorite son?

"Tomorrow will mark the 100th anniversary of President Reagan’s birth, and all week, conservatives have been trying to outdo each others’ remembrances of the great conservative icon.

1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser.
2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit.
3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts.
4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously.
5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose.
6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.”
7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants.
8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran.
9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act.
10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden."


If you don't like the source, at least check the facts from other sources before ranting your denials.

ThinkProgress » 10 Things Conservatives Don’t Want You To Know About Ronald Reagan

and that is a bunch of BULL, look where you got it and why are you sending it now, 3 days after his birthday?

Nita

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by nmnita

and that is a bunch of BULL, look where you got it and why are you sending it now, 3 days after his birthday?

Nita

"If you don't like the source, at least check the facts from other sources before ranting your denials."

[Fontucky]

I sent this to a friend who was, via Facebook, singing paeans to Reagen on his birthday. I was told it came from a socialist website and none of it was true.

[Bulldogdad]

Um ok here ya go. Oh before you go ranting about the source check the facts. See how this game is played.

The Real Reagan Economic Record: Responsible and Successful Fiscal Policy | The Heritage Foundation

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by bulldogdad

Um ok here ya go. Oh before you go ranting about the source check the facts. See how this game is played.

The Real Reagan Economic Record: Responsible and Successful Fiscal Policy | The Heritage Foundation

Well, ok now, bulldog ... that's what I'm talkin' about: check the claims against other sources and see how it all adds up ...

But, are you really sure you want to use this as your submission? It was written in 2001. And the quote in the first paragraph (below) doesn't reflect well given the current state of evolution of failed long-term economic policies that include every administration since (and starting with) Reagan's.

" ... that ignores reality and denies the fact that President Reagan's sound policies and determination deserve much of the credit for the current economic picture. Congress should embrace President Bush's tax reform plan as a responsible return to the most successful economic policy of the 20th century."

Umm, that "current economic picture" [in 2001] and "most successful economic policy of the 20th century" was the spring-board for today's collapse.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

I sent this to a friend who was, via Facebook, singing paeans to Reagen on his birthday. I was told it came from a socialist website and none of it was true.

Yes, the website of origin is strongly biased (against, obviously) ... yet the claims are supported by historical record. Go through them one by one and tear them to pieces, if you can. Plenty of info available on each point subject. Quite a "Top Ten List", no?

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Well, ok now, bulldog ... that's what I'm talkin' about: check the claims against other sources and see how it all adds up ...

But, are you really sure you want to use this as your submission? It was written in 2001. And the quote in the first paragraph (below) doesn't reflect well given the current state of evolution of failed long-term economic policies that include every administration since (and starting with) Reagan's.

" ... that ignores reality and denies the fact that President Reagan's sound policies and determination deserve much of the credit for the current economic picture. Congress should embrace President Bush's tax reform plan as a responsible return to the most successful economic policy of the 20th century."

Umm, that "current economic picture" [in 2001] and "most successful economic policy of the 20th century" was the spring-board for today's collapse.

Again your missing the big picture. Your post's sources are mostly opinion pieces from known left wing rags with minimal examination of actual statistical facts of Reagan policies. The date doesn't matter as Reagan's actual Policies while he was President and Governor are the thrust of your original post not what Bush did during his Presidency.

Yes I do understand that the Heritage Foundation is a conservative bastion of Political thought. That was the whole point of my counter point post.

If you like just scroll down to the source list of my post for more through readings on Reagan's economic policies and their impact on the economy.

[Brenda-by-the-sea]

Reagan's legacy is the very epitome of the term "lionization": giving a real historical person larger-than-life proportions and eventually attributing positive qualities to him that are inconsistent with reality.

I think the sorriest thing about Reagan is that he turned his back on the people he grew up with -- the struggling, hardworking Illinois and Iowa families -- and became an advocate for economic policies that favored the wealthy. He truly forgot where he came from. He remains now the very archetype of a Country Club Republican.

[.highnlite]

What I liked best about Reagan is that while many actors of his generation served on active duty in either the Pacific Theater or European theaters of war, he stuck to the Hollywood theater.

Second best? I like the way he attacked Carter and the Democrats for "Keynesian Economics" that is, using massive government spending resulting in deficits to fix recession and depression, exactly what the undereducated accuse Obama and the Democrats of.

Exceptin, once he got into office, Reagan tripled the deficit in order to fix his recession, yep folks, after denouncing Keynesian economics, he done did em'

And then.... My take on the following;

1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser. .................................................. .Yep
2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit...............................Yep, after criticizing the Democrats for deficit spending.
3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts.
4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously. .... Yep, but not as much as Bush II who increased it more than any President in History.
5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose.
6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.” Can we say Fiasco?: Grenada and Lebanon
7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants. Yep.
8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran..............Yep
9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act. ... Yep, he liked that apartheid regime.
10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden.".... Yep.

He was a nice guy, I had supper with him once, when I was a kid, he liked the money my parents sent him.