11-09-2020, 05:46 PM
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Thank you for everyone so far who has responded, thats why I posted to get real world expectations.
1. I know its expensive, but it is less expensive than CA all around, it may not be much but its less expensive and a different lifestyle than southern california which is what we want.
2. We are not true CA natives, I grew up on the east coast and we've lived there and Colorado so we are experienced with snow and harsh winters, we are looking forward to the snow and winter.
3. There will be a culture shock im sure but were a resilient bunch and im sure well adapt.
4. Regarding driving, id like to be around an hour commute but understandably it can vary greatly in the snow and the hospital would understand that if im called in but I work night shift so I will generally be going opposite of traffic.
5. Regarding utilities, I understand there will be similarities but I said the average where as I've gotten bills upwards of 6-800 depending on the year and the place we lived in, Temps up into the triple digits and an old ac system = high costs.
6. I only mention downtown hospitals because of their pay, which I believe is higher but also because of their ranking with certain specialties, my wife has some medical issues so we need a good hospital/health benefits, im not adverse to other hospitals just has to have good benefits.
Here's a few houses that I've found and why my thought process was what it was(all right around an hour commute, and I dont mind using toll roads):
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...57523501_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...56845628_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4...56580127_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...57175795_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...57123413_zpid/
Those are all 8/10 schools or higher and we also considered just buying land and having the house built.
11-09-2020, 06:05 PM
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Thank you for everyone so far who has responded, thats why I posted to get real world expectations.
1. I know its expensive, but it is less expensive than CA all around, it may not be much but its less expensive and a different lifestyle than southern california which is what we want.
2. We are not true CA natives, I grew up on the east coast and we've lived there and Colorado so we are experienced with snow and harsh winters, we are looking forward to the snow and winter.
3. There will be a culture shock im sure but were a resilient bunch and im sure well adapt.
4. Regarding driving, id like to be around an hour commute but understandably it can vary greatly in the snow and the hospital would understand that if im called in but I work night shift so I will generally be going opposite of traffic.
5. Regarding utilities, I understand there will be similarities but I said the average where as I've gotten bills upwards of 6-800 depending on the year and the place we lived in, Temps up into the triple digits and an old ac system = high costs.
6. I only mention downtown hospitals because of their pay, which I believe is higher but also because of their ranking with certain specialties, my wife has some medical issues so we need a good hospital/health benefits, im not adverse to other hospitals just has to have good benefits.
Here's a few houses that I've found and why my thought process was what it was(all right around an hour commute, and I dont mind using toll roads):
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...57523501_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...56845628_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4...56580127_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...57175795_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...57123413_zpid/
Those are all 8/10 schools or higher and we also considered just buying land and having the house built.
Without seeing the houses themselves, those are all good areas except the Wayland one is on a main road (Franklin one "kind" of is as well) and I'm not personally a fan of that Mansfield location although it's fine. All but the Wayland house will push you beyond an hour in any kind of traffic, although driving in for the night shift you might be OK. Going home in the morning could be a different story.
11-09-2020, 06:11 PM
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If OP indeed works night shift as posted, that changes the whole picture for any commute, whether in Boston or elsewhere. I worked nights for many years and never had a commuting issue no matter what. Totally different story than normal business hours or even hospital day shifts.
11-09-2020, 06:14 PM
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When do most night shifts let out in Boston??? If it's at 7, I can't imagine not hitting traffic.
11-09-2020, 06:31 PM
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Thank you for everyone so far who has responded, thats why I posted to get real world expectations.
1. I know its expensive, but it is less expensive than CA all around, it may not be much but its less expensive and a different lifestyle than southern california which is what we want.
2. We are not true CA natives, I grew up on the east coast and we've lived there and Colorado so we are experienced with snow and harsh winters, we are looking forward to the snow and winter.
3. There will be a culture shock im sure but were a resilient bunch and im sure well adapt.
4. Regarding driving, id like to be around an hour commute but understandably it can vary greatly in the snow and the hospital would understand that if im called in but I work night shift so I will generally be going opposite of traffic.
5. Regarding utilities, I understand there will be similarities but I said the average where as I've gotten bills upwards of 6-800 depending on the year and the place we lived in, Temps up into the triple digits and an old ac system = high costs.
6. I only mention downtown hospitals because of their pay, which I believe is higher but also because of their ranking with certain specialties, my wife has some medical issues so we need a good hospital/health benefits, im not adverse to other hospitals just has to have good benefits.
Here's a few houses that I've found and why my thought process was what it was(all right around an hour commute, and I dont mind using toll roads):
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...57523501_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...56845628_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4...56580127_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...57175795_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...57123413_zpid/
Those are all 8/10 schools or higher and we also considered just buying land and having the house built.
The first 3 are actually in the Providence Metro, not even in the Boston MSA. The first one is especially far, too far?
Duxbury is quite long commute but at night it should be fine minus the lack of lighting on Route 3.
The last home is one I highlighted as your best option. Rather small home though IMO. 1300 soft. 6 people-snowed in, meh.
And yes Boston night shifts typically let out at 7AM and you’re likely to face traffic in most any direction.
All in all? Id simply recommend you move to a very similar state that is cheaper. Connecticut is cheaper and noticeably slower pace of life. Anything you want in MA-CT has it. I’d recommend the Hartford or New Haven area Yale University hospital or Hartford Hospital are good starting points. But there are others.
But really, your not even going to be close to Boston and you could work in the Hartford CT area, live anywhere around the city and make it to Boston in 1.5 hours during off hours. IMO it’s much more practical and it’d be a calmer lifestyle. I spent 4 years in the area.
We’re just trying to level with you. I’d take all this advice quite seriously. We’re not trying to be mean it’s just what your looking for is slim pickings in MA and you’re really not gonna get a change in pace of life. This is a dense urbanized high cost state. If anything your free time will be significantly less due to commute, shoveling and distance from Boston.
11-09-2020, 06:33 PM
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When do most night shifts let out in Boston??? If it's at 7, I can't imagine not hitting traffic.
Yes, 7 or 7:30. But you're going against traffic on both ends of the commute. I'd get out of my job at 7:30 and sail west on Rt. 2 and it would be packed bumper to bumper on the other side going in towards town.
11-09-2020, 06:44 PM
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Yes, 7 or 7:30. But you're going against traffic on both ends of the commute. I'd get out of my job at 7:30 and sail west on Rt. 2 and it would be packed bumper to bumper on the other side going in towards town.
Yea just this doesn’t make sense as a move. If you want cheaper and slower pace of life. And something like Mass but your gonna have to be an hour from Boston? Might as well be in Connecticut. Far more options. Am I wrong?
11-09-2020, 07:11 PM
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Without seeing the houses themselves, those are all good areas except the Wayland one is on a main road (Franklin one "kind" of is as well) and I'm not personally a fan of that Mansfield location although it's fine. All but the Wayland house will push you beyond an hour in any kind of traffic, although driving in for the night shift you might be OK. Going home in the morning could be a different story.
What do you mean "main road"? How big/lanes we talking? I've lived and grew up a stones throw from 2 lane to 6 lanes busy roads.
Most hospitals start at 7pm, so I'd be commuting around 5pm, which is generally when people are leaving the areas im driving to so the traffic is less
11-09-2020, 07:12 PM
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Yes, 7 or 7:30. But you're going against traffic on both ends of the commute. I'd get out of my job at 7:30 and sail west on Rt. 2 and it would be packed bumper to bumper on the other side going in towards town.
Really??? I guess Rte. 2 is unique in that sense, as most roads out of Boston see significant outbound traffic as well these days. How long ago was this? Traffic had gotten substantially worse over the last decade. Also I can imagine it not being too bad if you worked at say Mt. Auburn and headed out Rte. 2 in the a.m., but if you are coming from Longwood there's quite a bit of mess to get through on the way to Rte. 2.
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What do you mean "main road"? How big/lanes we talking? I've lived and grew up a stones throw from 2 lane to 6 lanes busy roads.
Meaning 2 lanes but with a double yellow line down the middle (a through road as opposed to a neighborhood/side road.). Rush hour in Boston starts around 3:30 (earlier Fridays) and lasts till around 7, although you can hit traffic at any hour of the day.
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Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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