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I found this book through a documentary I watched: www.zietgeist.com where the author gave an interview.
It's a really interesting book so far, I just finished Iran and I'm starting on Columbia. Do you think what this guy did was true? If anyone else has read this book, do you think the US is really more of a Monetary Empire than a Capitalist Democracy?
I have to say with all these documentaries and books about the truth regarding the Federal Reserve, I think I'm buying it, and I know a lot of others who are too.
I'm always so pleased to find someone reading this! It's a book that really changed my outlook - which is something I can't say about many books.
I think the book is flawed because he's not a professional writer, and there's too much in there about his soul-searching, but yes, I'm sure it's true. I also suggest you read his second book, which is even more interesting. It's not even the money part per se which grabbed me, but the interference overall in other countries.
I'm sure that some of it is true but it is important to remember that this is one person's perspective on the issue.
But yeah, a lot of people in business have absolutely no ethics, so none of this surprises me; it is a game to most of them with people--even in poor, underdeveloped countries--as opponents rather than victims. I mean, just look at what businesses in this country have done to their fellow citizens, all for the sake of "being the one on top."
I think Zietgeist is what opened my eyes. I had no idea how the money system and the federal reserve really worked in this country, simply because they just don't teach it anywhere.
Everything collaborates, and despite his soul searching, his perspective lines up with other viewpoints. Using debt as leverage on other countries, creating debt that is impossible to repay, banks controlling the politicians.
What bothers me the most is how I will probably never vote again in another election after watching/reading about this. I know now that my vote truly doesn't count, simply because the banks and elite corporations finance every single candidate that runs for election, and once elected, the candidate owes the banks and corporation, not the american people that voted them in.
As long as we allow the current money system to operate and the Federal Reserve exists, we will never have a true say in our government. Unfortunately, too many of us a "just comfortable enough" to where we won't rebel or do anything drastic in attempt to change the system.
StarlaJane, I don't think it's simply a matter of ethics. I was once ripped off by an antiques dealer and I really laid into him about his ethics. But this is potentially undermining an entire country.
Cdubs, I hope that it isn't true that it disillusions you from voting again! Ideally, it should do the opposite, make you not only want to vote, but devote some time or funding to organizations that try to keep things clean.
StarlaJane, I don't think it's simply a matter of ethics. I was once ripped off by an antiques dealer and I really laid into him about his ethics. But this is potentially undermining an entire country.
Cdubs, I hope that it isn't true that it disillusions you from voting again! Ideally, it should do the opposite, make you not only want to vote, but devote some time or funding to organizations that try to keep things clean.
Why should I vote? Why do I have to pick a poison? As long as their is a two party system where both candidates will be backed financially by the same conglomerate banks and elite corporations, then our vote or say will never truly matter.
Just like the 3rd world nations the elite engineering and industrial corporations and world banks handcuff into lifetimes of debt, those countries owe and serve those corporations. The candidates we "vote" for aren't in office to serve us, they owe those who made contributions to their campaign.
Why should I vote? Why do I have to pick a poison? As long as their is a two party system where both candidates will be backed financially by the same conglomerate banks and elite corporations, then our vote or say will never truly matter.
Just like the 3rd world nations the elite engineering and industrial corporations and world banks handcuff into lifetimes of debt, those countries owe and serve those corporations. The candidates we "vote" for aren't in office to serve us, they owe those who made contributions to their campaign.
Have to agree - after 30+ years of voting in this country, and being fairly deeply involved in politics for a chunk of that, I'm disillusioned with the "Money Party" (whether it wears a Republican or Democratic face). I can't, in good conscience, keep voting for the "least evil".
Why should I vote? Why do I have to pick a poison? As long as their is a two party system where both candidates will be backed financially by the same conglomerate banks and elite corporations, then our vote or say will never truly matter.
Just like the 3rd world nations the elite engineering and industrial corporations and world banks handcuff into lifetimes of debt, those countries owe and serve those corporations. The candidates we "vote" for aren't in office to serve us, they owe those who made contributions to their campaign.
StarlaJane, I don't think it's simply a matter of ethics. I was once ripped off by an antiques dealer and I really laid into him about his ethics. But this is potentially undermining an entire country.
Cdubs, I hope that it isn't true that it disillusions you from voting again! Ideally, it should do the opposite, make you not only want to vote, but devote some time or funding to organizations that try to keep things clean.
So what, antiques dealers aren't businessmen? It's all about ethics, especially when people put them aside for the sake of money.
[quote=PNW-type-gal;18825088]Have to agree - after 30+ years of voting in this country, and being fairly deeply involved in politics for a chunk of that, I'm disillusioned with the "Money Party" (whether it wears a Republican or Democratic face). I can't, in good conscience, keep voting for the "least evil".[/quote]
I'm tired too of voting for the least evil, and I'm north of the border.
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