06-29-2009, 10:48 AM
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I have reviewed multiple threads and websites describing horror stories of experiences with Ryan Homes. However, it seems one-sided when none of the success stories are posted. I am considering purchasing in Belmont Station (Elkridge, MD). I know Rt 1 in Elkridge doesn't receive good reviews either, but it is tucked away behind businesses and seems pretty quiet/safe, away from the trailer parks and liquor stores, etc.
I am in my mid-20s, currently single with no kids and it seems like a good move, to start at least. So my question is two-fold (regarding Ryan Homes and that area of Elkridge) and directed particularly for any current or former residents of this community. Any feedback (both positive and negative preferably) would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks!
06-29-2009, 05:33 PM
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I'm in a similar situation... I'm in my mid-20s, single, and considering building a Ryan home (for me, in upstate New York), but I too have encountered the horror stories you described while doing initial Ryan Homes research online. It's puzzling and I'm not sure what to think. Either there is a real problem with Ryan Homes or these stories just represent the typical bad apples that a builder that does as much business as Ryan does is statistically bound to have.
It's possible that I haven't looked hard enough, but I haven't come across any site that demonstrates in an organized manner that Ryan Homes indeed has a real, widespread quality problem. Such a site needs to present complaints from many unhappy customers, not just a really bad isolated case here or there, as many sites seem to do. Ideally, such a site should also present positive stories alongside complaints for comparison, as you suggested.
"Ryan Homes Stinks Emails," a page on HomeOwners for Better Building (hobb.org), seems to have to have collected potentially useful information from many parties, but instead of organizing the information in an easily reviewable way from which one can start to draw real conclusions, it just lists the raw text of the approximately 50 Ryan Homes complaint emails received [1]. In fact, in many of the emails, people express the same feelings you and I have -- shocked after reading the numerous nightmare emails, but wondering if/how there could really be such a serious problem with such a well-established company.
I too would really appreciate any feedback on this situation. Thanks in advance.
1. [url=http://www.hobb.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2006&Ite mid=349I]HomeOwners for Better Building - Ryan Homes Stinks Emails[/url]
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06-30-2009, 10:30 PM
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Being a real estate paralegal I have seen this builder stiff people one time too many..they will start a sub development and pull out in the middle of it leaving all of the homeowners high and dry the house i purchased is a Ryan home in NC and the value was 750k so u can imagine my community graciously i got it for a loooooot cheaper bc Ryan pulled out and left a community not even a 4th complete and another stepped in and they just went bankrupt bc the homes could not sell compared to Ryan homes but Ryan did not finish our club house, tennis court walking trail gym or anything so now it looks somewhat like a scattered island bc it is only gonna be a few houses not cookie cutter in this upscale community..also there are tons of communities that they are left with bc the majority of the time Ryan does not own the land they purchase bulks of lots at a time an they have to wait for the city to approve it and then release it to sell to us..so the are not at a lost bc it is not their development they may got a lot released they may not and they cant build without the purchase and release from the city so they could take years to complete one community..say get another builder and especially in this economy..a lot of brokers and agents here are kind of staying away from Ryan bc of the bad repoir there are tons of people left high and dry down south and they are all the same LLC, just different offices don't let them tell you differently..i have a lot of behind the scenes bc of my field deal with a Real Estate Agent not the builder DON'T EVER DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE BUILDER...you may spend more in attorney fees than the home...lol..NEVER DEAL WITH A DIRECT BUILDER GET A BROKER OR AGENT..TRUST ME..WE HAVE TONS OF CASES BC OF THIS...
07-01-2009, 10:32 AM
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Awhile back, I was looking at Belmont Station for the ones that are rentals. At the time, Ryan was still in the process of building some of the townhomes and you could tell the insulation material didn't look all that great.
You're right, that area of Elkridge is tucked behind and your close to the Shopping at Mont Rd/Rt1 and Columbia. You might also wanna look at Jessup for the new Townhomes they built there (think that was ryland, though).
07-15-2009, 08:42 AM
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i just purchase a home in elkridge crossing and these are the stacked townhomes, which mean some one lives in the two levels above me, and they said that they have a concreat slab in between the two units, but i find it hard to belive since i can here every dang thing above all the noise and stomping it is horrible is there any way out after a purchase it has only been 30 days, please help or am i stuck what can i do, is it possible to have them check to see if there is a slab of concreat that they claim is in between the units, will never belive ryan again, will buy from some one else in the near future.
08-11-2009, 10:39 AM
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Well, I went ahead and purchased with Ryan Homes. I was surprised that the price of resales in the surrounding areas were higher than building a new home. The location is convenient, and I spoke with a couple neighbors who praised the builder, the quality of their homes, and the neighborhood. I pray that all goes well, will keep you updated!
08-12-2009, 10:59 AM
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Eden- Which community did purchase in?
08-12-2009, 09:50 PM
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Why dont people just ask?
I dont understand -- why dont you talk to existing home owners and ask them if they are happy with Ryan homes?
If not, don't buy, if they are, then chances are you will be ok.
I have a Ryan home. Quality is like any other commercial builder. Customer service depends on the project manager, like any other commercial builder.
All these builders want to quickly build, get their money, make sure the house stays ok for one year, and then move on. That is the way the industry is. If you dont like this, buy an older home or custom build.
08-18-2009, 12:05 PM
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Dangle13 - Belmont Station
Superair - In which Ryan community did you buy?
10-08-2009, 12:17 PM
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Ryan Homes - Matisse Problem/Don't purchase
Quote:
Originally Posted by
smallwonder67
i just purchase a home in elkridge crossing and these are the stacked townhomes, which mean some one lives in the two levels above me, and they said that they have a concreat slab in between the two units, but i find it hard to belive since i can here every dang thing above all the noise and stomping it is horrible is there any way out after a purchase it has only been 30 days, please help or am i stuck what can i do, is it possible to have them check to see if there is a slab of concreat that they claim is in between the units, will never belive ryan again, will buy from some one else in the near future.
I purchased a Matisse model in Park Place at Red Run Mills in Owings Mills. I, too, was promised cement/concrete between the two condos. I was told that I would not hear my upstairs neighbors because of this. This was a lie. I also hear my neighbors through our adjoining walls in my living room, kitchen and master bedroom. I can hear their conversations through my vents in my two small bedrooms. There must be an acoustical problem as well. I hear conversations behind my master bathroom toilet, even though their landing and stairwell is not there. The only places in my home that seem to be constructed properly, as far as sound transference is concerned, are my downstairs half bath and the wall attached to the neighboring Matisse unit.
My story gets even better. They sold the upstairs Picasso unit to a mother with 5 children. I can hear the mother because she is quite loud and her children run, jump and yell. My ceilings and floors shake. Apparently, she was not told by Ryan that there are limits. Loud noises are one thing, but I can hear them talking at regular volumes as well. I've hear them reading books, saying I love you, and just regular conversation, all things that are not screamed.
The tile floors in the above unit also cause problems. If they pull out a chair and it screeches, the sound goes through my whole upstairs. Anything dropped does the same. I can hear their cabinets opening and closing. It is truly crazy. I do know that other people in my development are having similar problems with their ceilings. I unfortunately have the noise through my walls as well. Everyone may. I just have so many people above me therefore I have much more opportunity to hear the noise. When I first moved in,the mother told me she heard everything that a contractor and I had said through our adjoining downstairs wall. We were not speaking loudly. I do not have privacy in my home.
Ryan came out and told me that this was all normal. It was a whirlwind of b.s. I did not believe the stories I heard about Ryan prior to purchasing. I wish that I had.
Please, Smallwonder67 contact me. Anyone else experiencing this problem, please contact me at
tracjal@aol.com . Please reference Matisse in the subject field.
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People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)