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Old 07-31-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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All commercial transport planes ("airliners") have secure, locking cockpit doors. An aftereffect of 9/11...
Most but not all corporate size planes have exterior door locks.
Almost all small planes have door locks.
I'm pretty sure those locks are interior locks to keep people out while the pilots are insider. I don't remember seeing any key on them though to lock them up while parked. Any pilots care to comment?
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:32 AM
 
Location: The hills of western Washington
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The locks are advanced combo locks. We (the airline pilots) have the combo, you don't. The cockpit is secured, even when the plane is parked overnight. You can't steal the plane without getting in the cockpit (flight deck for p/c weenies...)
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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All commercial transport planes ("airliners") have secure, locking cockpit doors. An aftereffect of 9/11...
Most but not all corporate size planes have exterior door locks.
Almost all small planes have door locks.
Cockpit door of course, I'm referring to exterior cabin doors.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Ours was keyed...and only the Captain had one...also had a deadbolt from the inside.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:33 PM
 
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That was one of the issues when I was on an ARFF crew. We're trained in how to shut off the fuel flow and engines and whatnot after a crash, but the crew is incapacitated and the door is locked, not much we can do.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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a very real problem if the crew is "stuck" in the cockpit...when flying small planes something we trained on was unlatching the side doors of the aircraft prior to making an off-airfield landing/crash landing...reason was if the fuselage was "tweaked" you might not be able to get the door open. Can't remember if that was true for our airline checklists or not, might have been.

There was an "air disasters" episode on discovery a few years back where a commuter crashed an EMB-120 into a field after the engine departed it's mount and was laying sideways across the wing. The crew managed to crash land but the aircraft split in half after the crash. The pilot and co-pilot were stuck in the cockpit, captain died in the crash (believe a head injury) and the FO was trying to get out of the direct vision windows. Unfortunately the airframe was tweaked and the window wouldn't open off it's rails, additionally the cockpit oxygen system is a self contained tube in the cockpit, which, was burning up in the subsequent fire. The FO ended up using the crash axe to break a small hold in the window, a fleeing passenger heard the FO screaming and returned to the airplane to take the crash axe from the FO and made the hole large enough for the FO to crawl out of.

Honestly, while flying the EMB-145 (same airframe design) my biggest fears were being incapacitated during a crash by the window pins which were dangerously close to your head...and getting burned up by the O2 tank that was sitting in the cockpit...both would SUCK!
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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anyways back to the questions at head.
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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how much Would It Cost Now 2013 to get license to Fly and get lessons Everything on cessna or Smaller Air craft.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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how much Would It Cost Now 2013 to get license to Fly and get lessons Everything on cessna or Smaller Air craft.
It will vary wildly with where you live, how much training you need, what kind of license you want, and what sort of technology you want in the aircraft you're flying.

I'll just toss out $10k for a basic private license, but I'm also in an expensive area where the cheapest Skyhawk is $175/hr at the flight school.
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge
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Repossessing an airplane would be a big-time adrenaline rush. I've watched a few episodes on TV and there's so much leg work that these guys have to perform before taking possession of the aircraft and with it there is danger in what they're trying to accomplish. Definitely not easy money.

-Cheers.
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