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Old 05-17-2023, 02:04 PM
 
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I misread the post as a response to my OP, but it was a response to other posts.
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Old 05-17-2023, 02:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I like three-pedal driving as much as ever, but there isn't s single stick that's faster than its slushbox twin, AFAIK. Even C&D, the proud supporter of the manuals, admits it.
And it makes almost no sense in an EV.
It wouldn’t be faster, just a lot more fun and likely optional like paddles.
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Old 05-17-2023, 03:41 PM
 
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I like three-pedal driving as much as ever, but there isn't s single stick that's faster than its slushbox twin, AFAIK. Even C&D, the proud supporter of the manuals, admits it.
And it makes almost no sense in an EV.
That's not an absolute truth no. Even just starting at the top of the alphabet of cars that still come with a manual, the Acura Integra is faster in the 6m vs the cvt.
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Old 05-17-2023, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Manuals are pretty stupid on EVs as really there's no advantage for more than two gears and not much advantage for more than one.

Mild hybrids might be enough to run the climate control ala Prius. E.g. the new Mercedes EQ Boost mild hybrid is .9 kWh capacity, similar to the new Prius (non-Prime) 1.5 kWh. Liability would probably prevent it though, same way that avoid doing remote start on manual vehicles. It's definitely nice though to be able to run the heater/AC without constantly idling.
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Old 05-17-2023, 03:56 PM
 
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That's not an absolute truth no. Even just starting at the top of the alphabet of cars that still come with a manual, the Acura Integra is faster in the 6m vs the cvt.
Absolute? probably not, no. But every single review I've read in C&D the past 5 years has mentioned the stick being more fun but slower. And this is from testers who can shift 10x faster than an average driver. Sure I may have missed one or two, and I'm not surprised that Honda's lame CVT is slower.
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Old 05-17-2023, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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That's not an absolute truth no. Even just starting at the top of the alphabet of cars that still come with a manual, the Acura Integra is faster in the 6m vs the cvt.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/

Pretty much the same, MT got 7.6 in the CVT and 7.7 with the manual. It's not much of a performer even with the manual. It's in the normal range for regular economy cars, Corolla with the 2.0, Mazda3 with the NA 2.5, fair bit slower than regular Prius but faster than a Nissan Sentra. 0-60 isn't really a big priority in the economy segment but the downside is Honda has been making the Civic Si slower for a while now. They're slower than the late 2000s Sis nowadays as they're so large and fat nowadays the power hasn't kept up with the waistline.
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Old 05-17-2023, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Memorial Villages
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I'd love to get one of the high-performance off-road trucks (Ram TRX or Ford Raptor) with a front bench seat. IMO such a huge vehicle should be able to hold six people. Wouldn't mind a manual option either, although I'd imagine that amount of torque would be rough on the clutch.

Speaking of manuals, I'm frustrated at how rare it is to find a vehicle that offers both a manual transmission and radar cruise. My current VW GTI offers both, as do some Hondas, but a number of cool vehicles that I'd consider for my next car, such as the Hyundai Elantra N, do not offer radar cruise with a manual.

(as an aside - yes...I'm considering both a Ram TRX and an Elantra N for my next car...I'm indecisive)
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Old 05-17-2023, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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The Toyota RAV4 Prime actually comes pretty danged close, but I'd like to see a plug-in hybrid CUV, with 3,000lb of towing capacity (vs 2,500) and 50 miles of all-electric range (vs 42). I am sure Toyota could do those adjustments to capacities without heroics - might cost a little more, but shouldn't be *too* much more.
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