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I guess it depends if the Sub frame is bent or not...
Might be cheaper to buy the same year/make/model of Honda Civic than fixing the current one if you are not at fault and insurance pays you out for it but that is just in IMO.
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A subframe is a structural component of a vehicle, such as an automobile or an aircraft, that uses a discrete, separate structure within a larger body-on-frame or unit body to carry certain components, such as the engine, drivetrain, or suspension. The subframe is bolted and/or welded to the vehicle. When bolted, it is sometimes equipped with rubberbushings or springs to dampenvibration.
The principal purposes of using a subframe are, to spread high chassis loads over a wide area of relatively thin sheet metal of a monocoque body shell, and to isolate vibration and harshness from the rest of the body. For example, in an automobile with its powertrain contained in a subframe, forces generated by the engine and transmission can be damped enough that they will not disturb passengers. As a natural development from a car with a full chassis, separate front and rear subframes are used in modern vehicles to reduce the overall weight and cost. In addition a subframe yields benefits to production in that subassemblies can be made which can be introduced to the main bodyshell when required on an automated line.
There are generally three basic forms of the subframe.
A simple "axle" type which usually carries the lower control arms and steering rack.
A perimeter frame which carries the above components but in addition supports the engine.
A perimeter frame which carries the above components but in addition supports the engine, transmission and possibly full suspension. (As used on front wheel drive cars)
A subframe is usually made of pressed steel panels that are much thicker than bodyshell panels, which are welded or spot welded together. The use of Hydroformed tubes may also be used.
I guess it depends if the Sub frame is bent or not...
Might be cheaper to buy the same year/make/model of Honda Civic than fixing the current one if you are not at fault and insurance pays you out for it but that is just in IMO.
Yeah, it is not my fault, yeah, that is what I am thinking of doing
Got in a wreck last night, my car keeps steering to the right so I guess I need a ailment....
I think the car already has a significant ailment, as a result of that collision. Perhaps you meant an "alignment"?
As someone already said, the type of accident damage to the car, coupled with the steering problem, makes it likely that something is bent. That could include a tie rod and/or the subframe.
When the subframe is bent, it is not possible to simply align the wheels, as the entire geometry of the front end is "off". If the damage is less severe, it might just involve replacement of a tie rod and/or ball joints + an alignment. Only a careful examination of the car by a competent mechanic will tell the real story.
When an insurance company decides whether or not to "total" a car, they consider the book value of the car as well as the cost of repairs. In other words, $1,000 worth of repairs on an older car in...not so good condition...will likely "total" it, whereas that same $1,000 repair on a newer car would not "total" it.
I think the car already has a significant ailment, as a result of that collision. Perhaps you meant an "alignment"?
As someone already said, the type of accident damage to the car, coupled with the steering problem, makes it likely that something is bent. That could include a tie rod and/or the subframe.
When the subframe is bent, it is not possible to simply align the wheels, as the entire geometry of the front end is "off". If the damage is less severe, it might just involve replacement of a tie rod and/or ball joints + an alignment. Only a careful examination of the car by a competent mechanic will tell the real story.
When an insurance company decides whether or not to "total" a car, they consider the book value of the car as well as the cost of repairs. In other words, $1,000 worth of repairs on an older car in...not so good condition...will likely "total" it, whereas that same $1,000 repair on a newer car would not "total" it.
There are two definitions of "totalled." Insurance companies define a totalled car as one where the cost to repair the damage is greater than the value of the car. The car guy definition of totalled is a car that is damaged beyond repair regardless of cost.
Given the age of your car the insurance company will probably total it.
There are two definitions of "totalled." Insurance companies define a totalled car as one where the cost to repair the damage is greater than the value of the car. The car guy definition of totalled is a car that is damaged beyond repair regardless of cost.
Given the age of your car the insurance company will probably total it.
Let the insurance company total your car, but tell them you want to keep it. A little duct tape (well maybe a lot), and slowly drive into a tree on the other side to balance out the alignment, and you good for another 100k miles.
Here's a question, say for example the insurance company totals the car and you keep it, you do the body work yourself and make into show room condition again, would the insurance company pay anything if it was involved in a future accident? After all how many times can you total a car.
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