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Old 12-13-2011, 03:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Would you perform a cat delete for a gain of 50hp? Does the benefit outweigh any risk/downside? Take into account that new vehicles don't need to be smogged for six years. Does the fact that the vast majority of drivers will never do a cat delete mean that any impact to the environment negligible?
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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On a personal level, I think we all have a responsibility to do what we can, so to me the HP difference (and it sounds more like "on paper" HP than what you actually get, with a number that high) does not and will never warrant it, even if it was more.

There's usually plenty of ways to increase the HP of a vehicle, some of which actually reduces emissions, so a cat delete would not be my choice. I could however be inclined to swap it for a race spec cat, which can also provide performance gains, but obviously at a much higher cost, and only if the emission level remained the same or close to it.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Modern catalytic converters hardly reduce HP at all and are good for the world around us. If you've got an older vehicle with a performance robbing cat, upgrade to something newer, stay legal AND get more performance.

Not to mention if you get pulled over and a cop sees it's missing you'll get a hefty ticket.

I'd say no way, unless you are only going to be driving on a racetrack.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: United State of Texas
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Cat delete will most likely make LESS horsepower - not more. Modern engines have ultra high flow cats and a closed loop system that keeps them operating at peak efficiency. Some redneck part removal will not result in more power.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Location: The Wild Wild West
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Catalytic Convertors FYI

Will Removing the Catalytic Converter Damage My Vehicle? | eHow.com

Fines for removal, operator $2500.00, installer $25,000.00
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I don't believe deleting them will produce a 50 HP gain.

And I agree with the above - we have a responsibility to abide by the laws in place. I like fast cars but I also like clean air.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:18 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I don't believe deleting them will produce a 50 HP gain.

And I agree with the above - we have a responsibility to abide by the laws in place. I like fast cars but I also like clean air.

100% correct. Depending on the converter design you may pick up 10-15 hp. or less.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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50 HP? I'd like to see the data on that.....

Mike
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I don't know about a 50 hp gain, but it has been shown in some turbocharged engines to help the turbo spool quicker.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:18 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You guys don't test a new car for 6 years? In MD it's within the first 2 years and every 2 years after that.

I don't think you can delete the cat when buying a new car in any event.
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