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Like Fleet, I only like older cars, preferring to stay away from 96 and later OBD-II cars. The older ones can be found here in reasonable numbers, they have style, not blob style, but actual distinct looks - the 89 VW does not look like the 89 BMW etc.
Beyond that the last few years worth of cars are just fugly. Look at, for example, the Camry - get one say 5-7 years old and its not a bad lookng car. Current production does not improve on that look IMHO.
Beyond that late models are just a bad value for the money - you lose $ to depreciation, you lose to expensive parts, and anyway they just cost too much. For $50K I can buy 3 to 5 older cars in excellent condition, just for example, an E30 M3 (20K) an MG-B or Triumph from late 60's or early 70's in no worse than "2" condition, a very good driver, 10K more, that leaves me 20K for say a decent late 60's or early 70's Corvette, Mustang, or Cuda - no king of the hill engine for this money, but a good driver. These kind of cars will at least hold their value, and may be worth more in 10 years than you paid for them, well cared for.
Like Fleet, I only like older cars, preferring to stay away from 96 and later OBD-II cars. The older ones can be found here in reasonable numbers, they have style, not blob style, but actual distinct looks - the 89 VW does not look like the 89 BMW etc.
Beyond that the last few years worth of cars are just fugly. Look at, for example, the Camry - get one say 5-7 years old and its not a bad lookng car. Current production does not improve on that look IMHO.
Beyond that late models are just a bad value for the money - you lose $ to depreciation, you lose to expensive parts, and anyway they just cost too much. For $50K I can buy 3 to 5 older cars in excellent condition, just for example, an E30 M3 (20K) an MG-B or Triumph from late 60's or early 70's in no worse than "2" condition, a very good driver, 10K more, that leaves me 20K for say a decent late 60's or early 70's Corvette, Mustang, or Cuda - no king of the hill engine for this money, but a good driver. These kind of cars will at least hold their value, and may be worth more in 10 years than you paid for them, well cared for.
I won't disagree with you there. You can get great older cars with lots of personality and performance. We just bought an E39 525i manual in great shape for a paltry $4000. But some people asserting that you can't get any good new cars for under $30k seems overly drama-queenish to me.
If you think about it, the volume family sedans of yesteryears were dull and boring for their time. Some were down right ugly. Today's designers are hampered by wind tunnel and government regulations. From a performance standpoint, this is the best of times for cars and trucks. However, that may change soon with increases in CAFE standards (is it 1974 again?).
I agree.... A car I have has to have a little Passion. I was at a point where a 4 door mid sized sedan is important. I liked Mazda, pontiac(newer) were nice. Even some of the fords.
I don't understand why a gold camry with tan interior is even built. Is there anyone that wishes they could get one in that combo? Lol.
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Totally disagree with the notion of this thread. The average car has ALWAYS been boring because that's what the average person wants. Reliable, cheap, no fuss transportation.
There are so many great cars available on the market for enthusiasts today. Just to name a few the Corvette, Camaro, Challenger, Mustang, Viper (soon to be redesigned), Cayman, Boxster, 911, STI, Evo, 1 Series M, M3, M5, S4, S5, AMG-line Mercedes, 370Z, GTR, Elise, Evora, Genesis Coupe, etc. etc. And that's just under 100k. The exotics made now push the limits of performance, technology and beauty like NEVER before.
I prefer cheap little junkers that get great gas mileage seeing as gas is running around 4 bucks a gallon.
And new cars today, or even newer used cars..............yikes, 20-30 grand and up...........no way.
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