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Old 08-09-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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I'm jealous. I don't have anything near that nice to put my lugnuts back on.
Me neither not sold to the General public and that one is a baby compared to the one we used at the Chrysler pickup truck assembly plant we had 2 one on each side of the line, when you put 55 pickups out an hour you don’t have time to do it manually, and that line doesn’t stop for anything except the end of your shift.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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All of 5 minutes?
Yep. When techs work on a dozen cars per day, five minutes adds up. Plus at the prices customers are willing to pay, you're hiring a stoned high school dropout to do the work. Often in a situation where he's paid flat rate and has to buy his own tools... therefore has EVERY incentive toward poor quality work.

I don't see that changing any time soon. So if you pay for work done on your vehicle, odds are very good that you'll get poor results no matter where you go. It's nobody's fault specifically. But in aggregate pretty much the entire driving public is at fault. When people chase the cheapest price *and* in many cases have no understanding of the difference between good quality work vs. poor quality work... these are the results you end up with.

Which is why I'm a FORMER mechanic.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Yep. When techs work on a dozen cars per day, five minutes adds up. Plus at the prices customers are willing to pay, you're hiring a stoned high school dropout to do the work. Often in a situation where he's paid flat rate and has to buy his own tools... therefore has EVERY incentive toward poor quality work.

I don't see that changing any time soon. So if you pay for work done on your vehicle, odds are very good that you'll get poor results no matter where you go. It's nobody's fault specifically. But in aggregate pretty much the entire driving public is at fault. When people chase the cheapest price *and* in many cases have no understanding of the difference between good quality work vs. poor quality work... these are the results you end up with.

Which is why I'm a FORMER mechanic.

The way I get around that is mostly by going to small indy shops, ideally where the owner is the lead tech, and is out there on site every day.


Any sort of chain, though, yeah, you are right about having a stoner loser as your tech. And for reasons I don't understand, it seems like chains that specialize in tires are second only to "stupid lube" outfits for bad work.



Americans are really price-oriented, and convenience-oriented, as a group. Witness the Micky D's - they deliver on fast and cheap, but not on good. And they clean up, financially.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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The way I get around that is mostly by going to small indy shops, ideally where the owner is the lead tech, and is out there on site every day.


Any sort of chain, though, yeah, you are right about having a stoner loser as your tech. And for reasons I don't understand, it seems like chains that specialize in tires are second only to "stupid lube" outfits for bad work.



Americans are really price-oriented, and convenience-oriented, as a group. Witness the Micky D's - they deliver on fast and cheap, but not on good. And they clean up, financially.

That’s why I do my own work and when I have to take it in I research the hell out of the mechanic. The only time you’ll see me in a chain shop is if it’s a company car, or if I’m stuck somewhere and I’m far from home and simply cannot do the work.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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While I do not remember the process or circumstances I do remember replacing two stripped lugs a few years ago. It cost nothing and was quick and easy. The hard part was getting the lugs off. One I managed to pry and twist until it grabbed some viable threads, the other i had to cut off with a Dremel. Once the lugs were off, replacing the studs was nothing and cost nothing.
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