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Old 08-30-2011, 05:37 AM
 
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In order to make reclaimed water available to residential users, it would require the construction of an extensive distribution system, that just isn't feasible for most locations or for small quantity residential users. So they focus on larger commercial customers who are close to the existing distribution lines.
So, how do the larger commercial customers get it? I'd be interested to know, and happy to show up in a pick up and barrels right next to the golf course trucks.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Hutto
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Reclaimed water and grey water are not at all the same thing. Reclaimed water has been filtered and cleaned to a large degree, but not as much as drinking water. Grey water can still be quite contaminated.

In order to make reclaimed water available to residential users, it would require the construction of an extensive distribution system, that just isn't feasible for most locations or for small quantity residential users. So they focus on larger commercial customers who are close to the existing distribution lines.
On a similar note I've read about how the modern Golf courses utilize a combination of greywater and water collection ponds systems but I'm sure they've spent a pretty penny engineering something of that magnitude. It's quite amazing how the newer courses are hydro efficient.

I'm surprised that some of our golfers didn't have any insight in the on the private courses?
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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So, how do the larger commercial customers get it? I'd be interested to know, and happy to show up in a pick up and barrels right next to the golf course trucks.
Here is general information on the Reclaimed Water system. City of Austin - (IWRI) Water Resources Initiatives

What you have to do to apply for it. City of Austin - OBTAINING RECLAIMED WATER SERVICE

System Map. http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/dow.../systemmap.pdf

The website mentions that:
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Reclaimed water from these plants provides a non-potable water supply to applicable commercial, industrial, institutional, and residential users in the City.
So apparently in some situations it can be made available to residential users. I imagine you have to be very close to the existing reclaimed water distribution route and you have to pay for whatever cost is involved in extending service lines to your property.
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I honestly believe Texas needs to start thinking about building a pipeline from the MS River to central Texas. The pipeline could dump right into Lake Travis and keep it filled up to the top year round.

Louisiana is a cash strapped state and they would gladly sell the water rights. New Orleans, for instance, uses the MS River as a water supply. This was an ingenious idea. They are going through the same drought we are, to a lesser degree, and the flooding in the Midwest was occurring when they were in a drought. So they had super high river levels during a drought and that's where they get their drinking water. They will never run out of water.

We could build a giant pipeline the same way AZ did to supply Phoenix and how CA did to supply LA. But we would need to begin building it right now.

The initial pipeline could dump directly into Lake Travis and then we could build feeder lines that go up to Dallas, down to San Antonio/Houston.

With this, rice farmers would be satisfied, boat owners and marina operators on Lake Travis would be satisfied, and we would have water for years to come.

This seriously needs to be investigated.
This was proposed by some Texans decades ago, and the yankee states said "NO WAY!"

But I agree, build it yesterday.
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Well, I guess we could always go back to living like the first pioneers.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:38 PM
 
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On a similar note I've read about how the modern Golf courses utilize a combination of greywater and water collection ponds systems but I'm sure they've spent a pretty penny engineering something of that magnitude. It's quite amazing how the newer courses are hydro efficient.

I'm surprised that some of our golfers didn't have any insight in the on the private courses?
I'm sorry- maybe I'm not seeing it- but I really have to wonder how any golf course on natural grass can be "hydro efficient". Unless the whole thing is watered with greywater.....couldn't that water be used somewhere else, for say....farming?
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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Here is general information on the Reclaimed Water system. City of Austin - (IWRI) Water Resources Initiatives

What you have to do to apply for it. City of Austin - OBTAINING RECLAIMED WATER SERVICE

System Map. http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/dow.../systemmap.pdf

The website mentions that: So apparently in some situations it can be made available to residential users. I imagine you have to be very close to the existing reclaimed water distribution route and you have to pay for whatever cost is involved in extending service lines to your property.
I did call the number, and the nice woman on the other end told me that this was only for commercial customers. She referred me to the website that states: The UT Main Project will expand the pipe network in the central part of Austin. In addition to serving the University of Texas, the UT Main has the potential to serve churches, schools, parks, businesses, shopping centers, apartments, and developments along the alignment.
So....this whole scheme seems to be set up for businesses.
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Broomfield, CO
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That is crazy. Austin is a semi arid desert climate. I have been here 8 years and 6 of the 8 years have been in extreme droughts. This part of the country needs to figure out more effective ways of getting water to its residents, similar to how cities like El Paso, Phoenix, and Tucson. And certainly, more people need to be xerescaping (sp??) their yards. It is simply too dry in this part of the country for most grass to grow. Start planting more cactus, etc.

Until my HOA allows me to put rock in my yard, i will continue to water as much as it takes to maintain a somewhat green yard.


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In this time of extreme drought in our region, I'm very concerned about the future of our resources, specifically our water supply. With that in mind conservation is essential in order to preserve this precious resource.

Personally I'd rather sadly watch my lawn turn into dust with the thought I'm doing my part to ensure that our neighbors and families have this basic staple that is essential to our everyday life.

I realize that there are those who work tirelessly to ensure a beautiful yard, this is appreciated but do we really understand the long term effects should this drought continue for an extended period?

We are very fortunate to live in a community where everyone is awesome and chatting with my neighbors for the most part, most of us (with the exception of one person that says $300 or more of water is his right) are doing our part and watching our yard turn to dust with the hope that we making a difference for our friends in neighbors.

In my search for answers I wanted some perspective from an expert in land management, agriculture, as to how approach the future. One simple question came to mind. What next?????

One expert shared these thoughts:

* It's not a simple question because depending on your soil condition and grass type there is no one size fits all treatment.

*After an extended period of drought, specifically nearly 2 years of moisture depletion, soil conditions change, Ph levels, acidity, clay density, a soils ability to recover these are not effected by watering occasionally there are certain minerals that act as soil nutrients that are replenished naturally with rainwater.

*After a lengthy period of multiple 100 plus degree days the extreme heat is taking its toll on even well established root systems, for lawns that already have been damaged severely watering at this point is like giving medicine to a dead man it serves no purpose.

What are your thoughts for the future??????
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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This was proposed by some Texans decades ago, and the yankee states said "NO WAY!"

But I agree, build it yesterday.


Also was proposed to divert our Great Lakes, (fresh water source). Anywho...here is a link to everything water.
Great Lakes Water Wars

This one concerning Texas:http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...m#ogallalalink
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Until my HOA allows me to put rock in my yard, i will continue to water as much as it takes to maintain a somewhat green yard.
Your utility company thanks you!
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