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Old 10-21-2010, 09:21 PM
 
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Austin seems to be the land of cool deck railings.

Would you get horizontal cable wire deck railings if you had kids? Do you think kids would squeeze through or climb?

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:42 PM
 
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I don't know if a kid could squeeze through, but if you get the horizontal ones, they deffinitely could climb them. Be sure to get the version with vertical cables.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:45 PM
 
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Problem is, I like the horizontal ones.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Avery Ranch, Austin, TX
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Tempered glass is your friend.(Although, your pocketbook might not like it) I don't think there's any doubt that horizontal cables make great ladders.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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For a while you could not do these by code because of the 'ladder effect' issue - you still, I belive, cannot do them in commercial construction, also yes unless they are proporly tensioned they're pretty easy to pull apart. Another option would be to use a very minimal solid steel ipe (1/2" dia or less) or flat stock in a welded assembly.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:19 AM
 
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For a while you could not do these by code because of the 'ladder effect' issue - you still, I belive, cannot do them in commercial construction, also yes unless they are proporly tensioned they're pretty easy to pull apart. Another option would be to use a very minimal solid steel ipe (1/2" dia or less) or flat stock in a welded assembly.
I do not believe there has ever been anything in the building codes prohibiting horizontal railings of any type. All the building code describes is the required maximum spacing, hand rail and tread configuration and height requirements. Horizontal railings are extremely common in welded pipe guardrails and handrails in commercial construction.

Horizontal cables make good guardrails if properly tensioned. But the posts and fittings have to be very strong and securely attached to be able to withstand the tensioning of the cables.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:02 PM
 
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The horizontal wires might meet code, but believe me, you will have no peace if mind if you have very small children. I know about this. The asthetic considerations mean nothing next to the safety of a child.
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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"The 2000 International Residential Code (IRC) states that guardrails . . . shall not be constructed with horizontal members or other ornamental pattern that results in a ladder effect " - That was in the code but it has now been removed - it implied that guardrail with horizontal members were not acceptable ... It's true I was misrembering it was never part of IBC, but anyway ....
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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I'm open to modern suggestions! Transparency/visibility is key.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:14 AM
 
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I want to put stairs from my deck to gorund does anyone know the rise and width by austin code?
im using treated wood and my deck sits off ground about 4feet

Thanks
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