Country Club of the South (Alpharetta)? Worth it?

[billl]

Originally Posted by Tarzanman

Maybe you should take your own advice? No part of country club of the south sits inside the Alpharetta city limits.

Or Roswell for that matter. Johns Creek city limits down that way extend all the way to Nesbit Ferry.

But, hey, I'd hate to make everyone else look wrong. Maybe in another 6 years someone will "correct" me again.

[IntentionsRGood]

The singer Usher Raymond abandoned his mansion in the CCOS and moved to a leased mansion near Northside Dr. after a fan knocked on his door on 2 separate occasions. She was arrested both times. So much for security and piece of mind in a guard gated community. By the way, Usher's son nearly drowned in the pool at the leased mansion. He leased it so his name wouldn't show up in public records. He took his CCOS house off the market in 2013 after 2 years with no offers.

[salemsally]

Originally Posted by Tarzanman

Maybe you should take your own advice? No part of country club of the south sits inside the Alpharetta city limits. As a matter of fact, no part of Alpharetta goes as far south as Old Alabama Rd.

You should probably buy a map before you move in!

Perhaps CCOC is in a part of "unincorporated" Fulton County that has an Alpharetta mailing address - though it doesn't officially lie within the Alpharetta city limits? Much of DeKalb County, for example, is like this - lots of unincorporated territory that takes the mailing address of the nearest city (generally-speaking). Though Decatur is a small city that doesn't incorporate a lot of territory, a vast amount of unincorporated territory in south DeKalb County has a Decatur mailing address, and is commonly described as being "Decatur".

[OhioNative]

Originally Posted by salemsally

Perhaps CCOC is in a part of "unincorporated" Fulton County that has an Alpharetta mailing address - though it doesn't officially lie within the Alpharetta city limits? Much of DeKalb County, for example, is like this - lots of unincorporated territory that takes the mailing address of the nearest city (generally-speaking). Though Decatur is a small city that doesn't incorporate a lot of territory, a vast amount of unincorporated territory in south DeKalb County has a Decatur mailing address, and is commonly described as being "Decatur".

CCOS in entirely within the city limits of Johns Creek.

[AnsleyPark]

Regardless of its location, if you have the right change then I think it may be worth it. It's a beautiful neighborhood.

[salemsally]

Originally Posted by OhioNative

CCOS in entirely within the city limits of Johns Creek.

That's interesting - because for years, certain notable people who have lived in CCOS have been described as living in "Alpharetta". From Andre Rison to some of the Braves players - they were all described as living in "Alpharetta", IIRC.

Isn't Johns Creek a relatively new municipality? Perhaps CCOS had a legitimate Alpharetta address before Johns Creek came along? (Then again, I don't see the residents of CCOS easily agreeing to switch addresses...)

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by salemsally

That's interesting - because for years, certain notable people who have lived in CCOS have been described as living in "Alpharetta". From Andre Rison to some of the Braves players - they were all described as living in "Alpharetta", IIRC.

Isn't Johns Creek a relatively new municipality? Perhaps CCOS had a legitimate Alpharetta address before Johns Creek came along? (Then again, I don't see the residents of CCOS easily agreeing to switch addresses...)

Johns Creek was only incorporated in 2006, and before then CCOS homes had Alpharetta addresses.

[OhioNative]

Originally Posted by salemsally

That's interesting - because for years, certain notable people who have lived in CCOS have been described as living in "Alpharetta". From Andre Rison to some of the Braves players - they were all described as living in "Alpharetta", IIRC.

Isn't Johns Creek a relatively new municipality? Perhaps CCOS had a legitimate Alpharetta address before Johns Creek came along? (Then again, I don't see the residents of CCOS easily agreeing to switch addresses...)

As far as the USPS is concerned, they still have an Alpharetta address. There is no such thing as a Johns Creek zip code, as the post office does not care about municipal boundaries in terms of their operations. The city has petitioned the post office to have an actual, single Johns Creek zip code but it has not happened yet. This is what the city website says:

"Even though Johns Creek residents share a total of five zip codes – 30005, 30022, 30024, 30076, and 30097 – with the adjoining cities of Alpharetta, Roswell, Duluth, and Suwanee, so long as you include the correct zip code with your Johns Creek mailing address, the U.S. Postal Service will deliver your mail.

Established and administered by the USPS, zip codes don't always correspond with jurisdictional lines, as is the case with Johns Creek and other cities in North Fulton.

Upon incorporation, city leaders began discussions with congressional representatives and the USPS to obtain a single zip code for Johns Creek. To do this requires the USPS build a post office in our jurisdiction. With cutbacks in the USPS, that is not likely to happen in the near future, though city leaders continue to discuss the situation with decision makers in D.C."

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by OhioNative

As far as the USPS is concerned, they still have an Alpharetta address. There is no such thing as a Johns Creek zip code, as the post office does not care about municipal boundaries in terms of their operations. The city has petitioned the post office to have an actual, single Johns Creek zip code but it has not happened yet. This is what the city website says:

"Even though Johns Creek residents share a total of five zip codes – 30005, 30022, 30024, 30076, and 30097 – with the adjoining cities of Alpharetta, Roswell, Duluth, and Suwanee, so long as you include the correct zip code with your Johns Creek mailing address, the U.S. Postal Service will deliver your mail.

Established and administered by the USPS, zip codes don't always correspond with jurisdictional lines, as is the case with Johns Creek and other cities in North Fulton.

Upon incorporation, city leaders began discussions with congressional representatives and the USPS to obtain a single zip code for Johns Creek. To do this requires the USPS build a post office in our jurisdiction. With cutbacks in the USPS, that is not likely to happen in the near future, though city leaders continue to discuss the situation with decision makers in D.C."

That's the same situation with Sandy Springs, Dunwoody, and Brookhaven. All of those cities inherited Atlanta zip codes yet residents/businesses can use the new city's name. Incidentally, many companies in those jurisdictions still list Atlanta addresses.

[billl]

Originally Posted by salemsally

Perhaps CCOC is in a part of "unincorporated" Fulton County that has an Alpharetta mailing address - though it doesn't officially lie within the Alpharetta city limits?

Yes it used to be unincorporated. But when Johns Creek was created it included nearly all of the unincorporated land in North Fulton. Including CCOS. You can probably still send mail to a house in CCOS using the city name of "Alpharetta". But that doesn't mean the house is actually within the Alpharetta city limits. It isn't.