What would it take to REALLY improve Atlanta Public Schools across the board? (Boston: zoned, vs.)

[equinox63]

Originally Posted by cqholt

I cannot bash someone for choosing what they think is best for their kid(s).

I wouldn’t necessarily say that highlighting the choice to send your child to your local public school is bashing parents that don’t, but I understand your point.

[equinox63]

Originally Posted by bu2

Your comments bring up a point. High schools usually don't want the parents particularly involved.

High schools that don’t want parent involvement are often troubled. And more times than not, the administration is likely the cause. That’s why they don’t want to let the parents inside to see the dysfunction. Most good high schools encourage and promote parent involvement.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by equinox63

High schools that don’t want parent involvement are often troubled. And more times than not, the administration is likely the cause. That’s why they don’t want to let the parents inside to see the dysfunction. Most good high schools encourage and promote parent involvement.

This. The same with middle schools.

[aries4118]

Wealth – Not Enrollment in Private School – Increases Student Achievement
https://gadflyonthewallblog.com/2018...-to-new-study/

[aries4118]

How The Systemic Segregation Of Schools Is Maintained By 'Individual Choices'
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/55755...vidual-choices


Are Separate Gifted/Accelerated Programs and 'Tracks' Part of the Problem or the Solution?
https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2...-the-solution/

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by jeoff

1. I don’t know about Inman Park, but quite a few from Lake Claire walk or bike, and it’s just about as far—but crossing Clifton and Moreland are a bit different... still, I would guess at least some.

2. Folks zoned for other schools can apply for a school outside of their zone, if there are extra desks, and they provide their own transportation. So, i am pretty sure that the Lin would fill up one way or another—arguably a good thing, since the school could be considered a little too insulated. That said, drop off and pick up is already a zoo—a surreal happy zoo-but, still a zoo—hate to think what adding even more car riders would be like. Maybe having a drop-off/pick up at Candler Park Park?

Also, there is always the possibility that chunks of Druid Hills/Emory could start falling Atlanta’s way, those folks would have to go to school somewhere...

1. Asking because, if a rezone to Hope-Hill were to happen, the walking participation (whether to Hope-Hill or to Mary Lin) would be a major discussion point.

2. Thanks, but...I guess I am asking...of the for-real-zoned-to-Mary-Lin-families, which percentage are Candler Park vs. Lake Claire vs. Inman Park? An estimate? Or, is this not possible to really know at this point?

[bu2]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Housing is getting so pricey in COA that many lower income Hispanics (and lower income everybody's) may be blocked from attending city schools.

They are tearing down some of the older apartments in Buckhead. Same thing happening in parts of Chamblee.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Wealth – Not Enrollment in Private School – Increases Student Achievement
https://gadflyonthewallblog.com/2018...-to-new-study/

"...Participants were recruited in 1991 from ten different cities: Little Rock, Arkansas; Irvine, California; Lawrence, Kansas; Boston, Massachusetts; Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; Charlottesville, Virginia; Seattle, Washington; Hickory and Morganton, North Carolina; and Madison, Wisconsin. They were followed for 15 years and had to complete a month long home visit. In addition, they submitted to both annual interviews and home, school, and neighborhood observations...."

Interesting study results, but these are really atypical cities. 4 college towns, two small NC towns + Philly, Pittsburg, Boston and Seattle.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by bu2

"...Participants were recruited in 1991 from ten different cities: Little Rock, Arkansas; Irvine, California; Lawrence, Kansas; Boston, Massachusetts; Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; Charlottesville, Virginia; Seattle, Washington; Hickory and Morganton, North Carolina; and Madison, Wisconsin. They were followed for 15 years and had to complete a month long home visit. In addition, they submitted to both annual interviews and home, school, and neighborhood observations...."

Interesting study results, but these are really atypical cities. 4 college towns, two small NC towns + Philly, Pittsburg, Boston and Seattle.

How are Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Boston, and Seattle atypical cities? Plus, they are all fairly different from each other.


I think the sample is great--several very different large urban cities, rural/small towns, and the unique demographics of suburban-esque college towns.

And, they have Little Rock (mid-sized Southern city) and Irvine (suburban West Coast/Southern California) in the mix. Again, a great sample.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by aries4118

How are Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Boston, and Seattle atypical cities? Plus, they are all fairly different from each other.

I think the sample is great--several very different large urban cities, rural/small towns, and the unique demographics of suburban-esque college towns.

And, they have Little Rock (mid-sized Southern city) and Irvine (suburban West Coast/Southern California) in the mix. Again, a great sample.

Looks like a good study to me, too. And I am not surprised with the results.