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Old 04-18-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Simpson Middle School - Marietta, Georgia - GA - School overview


This school is ranked perfect. People are probably running due to racial or economical demographics because apparently it scores high.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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huh

Simpson Middle School - Marietta, Georgia - GA - School overview

This school is ranked perfect. People are probably running due to racial or economical demographics because apparently it scores high.
Within larger parameters, yes - it is perfect. It's a 10, as rated by "greatschools", etc. But when compared more closely to the other top 4 East Cobb schools, it's perceived to be "less".

The socio-economic demographics are exactly why this school scores slightly lower than the others. Its population, on average, is slightly "lower" on the SES scale than the population at the other four schools.

Given family SES always correlates extremely well with test scores, this is the dynamic you have here.

Some of the population at Simpson is perceived to be somewhat less "squeaky clean" than at the other schools, so some people turn their nose up.
This is really bad - but such things DO affect property values.

Crazy world we live in.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:18 AM
 
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Where do you see that it is trending down? Test scores look to be trending up pretty much across the board there. 5th out of 28 in the county isn't exactly horrible either.
Exactly!
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:53 AM
 
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Within larger parameters, yes - it is perfect. It's a 10, as rated by "greatschools", etc. But when compared more closely to the other top 4 East Cobb schools, it's perceived to be "less".

The socio-economic demographics are exactly why this school scores slightly lower than the others. Its population, on average, is slightly "lower" on the SES scale than the population at the other four schools.

Given family SES always correlates extremely well with test scores, this is the dynamic you have here.

Some of the population at Simpson is perceived to be somewhat less "squeaky clean" than at the other schools, so some people turn their nose up.
This is really bad - but such things DO affect property values.

Crazy world we live in.
Ok, well there you have it. The schools is just fine but some parents don't like the background and likely race of the kids there. Here is a opportunity where you make the right decision as a parent and teach your child proper values.

Send him to Simpson. I am willing to bet that Simpson has a much more diverse group of students than the other schools both racially and economically. I am willing to bet the other schools are homogenous across the board for the most part. Give your child the better more rounded experience. Send him/her to the equally academic but more diverse school: Simpson.

He/She will have a much better and more well rounded experience. They will interact and be friends with kids from all kinds of walks of life. They will learn how to communicate with a variety of kids. They will make some of the best friends possible and meet the most uniques friends possible because they will be in a diverse setting.

Take it from me. I went to "academically similar, but more diverse across the board" schools in both middle and high school and I would not trade the experience if I could do it again. Looking back I appreciate being around different types of people from different backgrounds and cultures and making the best friends and associates I could have possibly made. I would not have been able to make the same friends or witness the same types of people at homogenous school. I am still friends with many of my high school friends because of that environment and I am in my late 20s. I had a choice of who I wanted to associate with and was able to reinvent myself in high school due to the diversity. When I go back to my home town now and talk to friends and associates that went to less diverse schools I learned they had a terrible experience because they were different from the rest and they didn't want to conform to someone they were not. They mention my diverse high schools and wish they had went so they had a chance for a better experience due to the social diversity.

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Old 04-19-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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Simpson's population is very similar to Mabry and Hightower Trail.

For example, Mabry is 8% Black, Hightower Trail is 7% Black, and Simpson is 10% Black.


People--

*The only reason that some people are erroneously looking down on Simpson is because it does not purely feed into the big three: Lassiter, Walton, and Pope.

Simpson's feeder is 60% Lassiter and...(gasp!) 40% Sprayberry!

(And keep in mind: Sprayberry is a good school too.)

While Hightower Trail is 100% Pope; Mabry is 100% Lassiter; Dodgen is 60% Walton and 40% Pope; and Dickerson is 100% Walton.


Also, the feeder elementary schools are comparable and they are shared:

Simpson
Rocky Mount
Shallowford Falls
Mountain View
Kincaid
Addison

Hightower Trail
Shallowford Falls
Mountain View
Murdock
Tritt

Mabry
Rocky Mount
Garrison Mill
Davis

Dodgen
Kincaid
Murdock
Timber Ridge
East Side
Mount Bethel

Dickerson
Mount Bethel
Sope Creek
East Side

*Look above. See how all of East Cobb is linked?

Moreover...

Daniell
Kincaid
Addison
Blackwell
Chalker
Bells Ferry
Sedalia Park

East Cobb
Sope Creek
Sedalia Park
Eastvalley
Powers Ferry
Brumby

McCleskey
Blackwell
Keheley
Nicholson

Palmer
Chalker
Pitner
Kennesaw/Big Shanty

*Look above again (these are some of the other East Cobb middle schools--except Palmer). See how they are all linked--and even to the first 5?



And--Simpson is not a "lesser" school.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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Also, I am not " squeaky clean" and have degree and a good job, so I'd want my kids to be in diverse school across the board if all else is essentially equal. I know how to appreciate and associate with all types of people due to it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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Ok, well there you have it. The schools is just fine but some parents don't like the background and likely race of the kids there. Here is a opportunity where you make the right decision as a parent and teach your child proper values.

Send him to Simpson. I am willing to bet that Simpson has a much more diverse group of students than the other schools both racially and economically. I am willing to bet the other schools are homogenous across the board for the most part. Give your child the better more rounded experience. Send him/her to the equally academic but more diverse school: Simpson.

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Actually, Simpson is very similar demographically to the other four--especially Mabry and Hightower Trail. (see my post above)

This "issue" is more about what is perceived. Because Simpson does not totally feed into the "big three," some really weird people are starting to look down on it.

East Cobb is OK--but, since the mid-1990's, there is been a rising element of always trying to "one-up" other areas in East Cobb. (This is when Walton was featured in a national magazine, and when "rankings" started being published everywhere.)
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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Simpson's population is very similar to Mabry and Hightower Trail.

For example, Mabry is 8% Black, Hightower Trail is 7% Black, and Simpson is 10% Black.


People--

*The only reason that some people are erroneously looking down on Simpson is because it does not purely feed into the big three: Lassiter, Walton, and Pope.

Simpson's feeder is 60% Lassiter and...(gasp!) 40% Sprayberry!

(And keep in mind: Sprayberry is a good school too.)

While Hightower Trail is 100% Pope; Mabry is 100% Lassiter; Dodgen is 60% Walton and 40% Pope; and Dickerson is 100% Walton.


Also, the feeder elementary schools are comparable and they are shared:

Simpson
Rocky Mount
Shallowford Falls
Mountain View
Kincaid
Addison

Hightower Trail
Shallowford Falls
Mountain View
Murdock
Tritt

Mabry
Rocky Mount
Garrison Mill
Davis

Dodgen
Kincaid
Murdock
Timber Ridge
East Side
Mount Bethel

Dickerson
Mount Bethel
Sope Creek
East Side

*Look above. See how all of East Cobb is linked?

Moreover...

Daniell
Kincaid
Addison
Blackwell
Chalker
Bells Ferry
Sedalia Park

East Cobb
Sope Creek
Sedalia Park
Eastvalley
Powers Ferry
Brumby

McCleskey
Blackwell
Keheley
Nicholson

Palmer
Chalker
Pitner
Kennesaw/Big Shanty

*Look above again (these are some of the other East Cobb middle schools--except Palmer). See how they are all linked?



And--Simpson is not a "lesser" school.

Both Sprayberry and Lassiter have perfect or great rating ( 9-10). What the heck?

People are silly. OP needs to send their kids to the diverse schools if not for the benefits then to spite the other parents because they are clearly on par.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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The weirdest thing about Simpson from my school bus driving days (almost 20 years ago, I am dating myself) was the district looked like a gerrymandered congressional district. From Piedmont Road to the Fulton line. It did not center an area like other schools do.

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There is a story behind this. I will tell it later.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:03 AM
 
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When we were there our children were just starting Bells Ferry. The ex was starting to believe the hype and was trying to talk me into moving into the Pope district. I was just as happy for the kids to have a more real life experience and deal with Daniell and Sprayberry, good schools by my book even though they were seen as the red-headed step child among most East Cobbers. If it was going to be all that horrible, I would have preferred to stay in our area and go for Mt. Paran or Walker, but the move to Texas ensued and that bridge was never crossed, but enough of my drama.

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There would have been no need for private.

The Bells Ferry, Daniell, Sprayberry Feeder is still good.
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