Original Starting Point Of Hong Kong, Macau's separate historical existence compared to mainland China. (country, live)

Clarifying what exactly makes Hong Kong, and Macau have another association outside of mainland Asia. Ranking infinitely more higher on the Freedom Index, and astronomical heights of wealth compared to the mainland: Hong Kong $57,000, Macau: $111,270, China: Only $14,300 Average Annual Per Capita Income. Signals of democracy, and free economic policies to create another reality immediately crossing the border Hong Kong/Macau to all of China.

Where is the beginning step of establishing these territorial grounds away from the original country, and forever peaceful versions of history to empower their identity status into the future.

[pennyone]

Originally Posted by

Clarifying what exactly makes Hong Kong, and Macau have another association outside of mainland Asia. Ranking infinitely more higher on the Freedom Index, and astronomical heights of wealth compared to the mainland: Hong Kong $57,000, Macau: $111,270, China: Only $14,300 Average Annual Per Capita Income. Signals of democracy, and free economic policies to create another reality immediately crossing the border Hong Kong/Macau to all of China.

Where is the beginning step of establishing these territorial grounds away from the original country, and forever peaceful versions of history to empower their identity status into the future.

Any high school kid can do his basic research....find when the Ming allowed the Portuguese a small enclave in the 1500s. And the treaty of Nanking in the 1840s.

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by pennyone

Any high school kid can do his basic research....find when the Ming allowed the Portuguese a small enclave in the 1500s. And the treaty of Nanking in the 1840s.

Portugal also got Taiwan before the Japanese

[Davy-040]

Originally Posted by payutenyodagimas

Portugal also got Taiwan before the Japanese

so did the Dutch.

[Greysholic]

Originally Posted by payutenyodagimas

Portugal also got Taiwan before the Japanese

Ugh no. Portugal discovered Taiwan and gave it a name (Formosa), Spain and the Netherlands got Taiwan decades (or maybe a century) later, briefly.

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by Greysholic

Ugh no. Portugal discovered Taiwan and gave it a name (Formosa), Spain and the Netherlands got Taiwan decades (or maybe a century) later, briefly.

if ever Spain got Taiwan (I doubt), its due to the throne unification of Spain and Portugal.


Spain was contented trading silk with mainland china via the Philippines

[Greysholic]

Originally Posted by payutenyodagimas

if ever Spain got Taiwan (I doubt), its due to the throne unification of Spain and Portugal.


Spain was contented trading silk with mainland china via the Philippines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Formosa

Spanish Formosa was a Spanish colony established in the north of Taiwan from 1626 to 1642.

The Portuguese were the first Europeans to reach the island of Taiwan, and named it Formosa due to the beautiful landscape as seen from the sea. The colony was meant to protect Spanish in the region from interference by the Dutch base in the south of Taiwan. The Spanish colony was short-lived due to the unwillingness of Spanish colonial authorities in Manila to commit men and materiel for its defense.

After seventeen years, the last fortress of the Spanish was besieged by Dutch forces and eventually fell, giving the Dutch control over most of the island.

[botticelli]

To say Macau is not "successful" than China is like saying Monaco is more successful than France or the Euro Zone. It simply is meaningless.

[gen2010]

What is the nonsense about this discussion? why don't we go back to Yuan dynasty, which colonized half of Europe. The average living standard in HK or Macau is not higher than Shanghai or Shenzhen

[Tiger Beer]

Originally Posted by

Clarifying what exactly makes Hong Kong, and Macau have another association outside of mainland Asia. Ranking infinitely more higher on the Freedom Index, and astronomical heights of wealth compared to the mainland: Hong Kong $57,000, Macau: $111,270, China: Only $14,300 Average Annual Per Capita Income. Signals of democracy, and free economic policies to create another reality immediately crossing the border Hong Kong/Macau to all of China.

Where is the beginning step of establishing these territorial grounds away from the original country, and forever peaceful versions of history to empower their identity status into the future.

One was a Portuguese colony, and one was a British colony....