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Old 12-04-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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Brazilian Jujitsu is the best. 90% of all street fights go to the ground (or so I've heard).
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Muy Thai
Both are used in professional mma bouts. Brazilian jiu jitsu is used more often. Muy Thai would probably be better for street fights, elbows and knees can do permanent damage
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Both are used in professional mma bouts. Brazilian jiu jitsu is used more often. Muy Thai would probably be better for street fights, elbows and knees can do permanent damage
More like being on your feet makes it harder for your opponent's friends to put a steel toed boot through your skull.
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Old 12-05-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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Muay Thai is more practical and straight forward

Why hasn't a guy who knows Krav Maga won an mma championship? I am pretty sure they can modify for the rules. I mean are there actual videos of those guys using it and displaying those cool moves while they take down all day multiple guys? Any country can claim they have the best martial art.


I think the three most fundamental are muay thai stand up and clinch, wrestling to take opponents down or defend, and BJJ to fight off your back on the ground and apply chockes and joint locks
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Old 12-05-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Muay Thai is more practical and straight forward

Why hasn't a guy who knows Krav Maga won an mma championship? I am pretty sure they can modify for the rules. I mean are there actual videos of those guys using it and displaying those cool moves while they take down all day multiple guys? Any country can claim they have the best martial art.


I think the three most fundamental are muay thai stand up and clinch, wrestling to take opponents down or defend, and BJJ to fight off your back on the ground and apply chockes and joint locks
Probably because krav maga is meant for real world situations with no rules: eye guage, break wrists, grab anything that's near you and use it as a weapon
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Old 12-05-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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Some really dumb answers here.

The most effective would not being there, second is a gun, third would be boxing or Muay Thai with at least some notion of wrestling, and that's it. Since the topic here is Asian martial arts then it's Muay Thai.

People saying Taekwondo, Karate or Jiu Jitsu are delusional. Yeah, Jiu Jitsu is great and I like it but try to use it with a guy biting off a chunk of your face or sticking is fingers in your eyes or elbowing you in the throat or genitals, while you get ready to perform that great arm bar you're so good at.

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Muay Thai is more practical and straight forward

Why hasn't a guy who knows Krav Maga won an mma championship? I am pretty sure they can modify for the rules.
Because of the obvious reason, in order for it to be a sport you can't bite, attack the eyes, spine, throat or genitals and of course the rules can't be modified to allow for that.

When will people realize that a real fight is different from a MMA fight?
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:10 AM
 
Location: SW
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Brazilian Jujitsu is the best. 90% of all street fights go to the ground (or so I've heard).
Sounds like you are not sure about the claim:

The myth of 90 percent of fights end up on the ground

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When will people realize that a real fight is different from a MMA fight?
When they get off their high horse and actually train in self-defense.

My instructor always reminds me that there's no concept of winning in a scuffle. Your objective is to make it home.

What do you do when you see a train coming your way?
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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GUNS, are the deadliest, duh!
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Singapore
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I was once trained in basic combatives and bayonet fighting; later on, I expanded on by learning from buddies whom received more advanced training in combatives; during my studies, I was friends with a couple of guys and I watched them trained: a chinese wushu practioner (of the chereographed kind), another guy whom was a full-time Muay Thai (half-Thai half Chinese) boxer, (meaning he actually participated in muay thai torunaments - the kind where participants sometimes died from being kicked too hard in the head), (he had a healthy respect for Aikido), another guy whom was a silat practitioner, and also an Australian with a karate black belt and practitioner in using the Indonesian chabang.

Then, in one of my former workplaces, I met a colleague whom MMA practitioner (whom derided Aikido as a joke, in contrast to my Thai friend), then at a university I once worked at, I was friends with a South korean ex-soldier whom practised Taekwando.

During my younger days, I also got involved in a few street fights.

I learned some things, which you may disagree with:

1) There isn't really a deadliest martial art; it is more of the level and depth of competence and training; a 30 year old whom has been training for 16 hours a day in Taekwondo can badly hurt a 20 year old whom spends 8 hours a week learning MMA and Krav Maga

2) Fighting is never fair; the best lesson I ever received in this was when the unarmed combat instructor told me and my fellow platoon-mates during basic training was: Fighting fair will get you killed; don't be obsessed with technique, just do whatever works; hit hard and fast, being a gentleman will not help you to survive

3) My Thai friend told me it does not matter if you are a master of whatever fighting style, if your opponent has a knife and you do not, and even if your opponent has zero knowledge of martial arts, your chances of survival decreases a lot. If it was a firearm, your chances of survival are zero. Which is why my friends whom were in elite units spent only 2 hours a week on combatives at most during service - even lesser than that.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: No. Virginia, USA
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Deadliest, I dunno, but I always thought Steven Segal could beat Van Damme.
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:07 AM
 
Location: West Jakarta + Tangerang
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Silat / Pencak Silat

watch "The Raid Redemption" and "The Raid 2"
Oh maybe you mean this movie? I love this movie very stressful, this is the most excellent Indonesian movie .. Yes this is " PENCAT SILAT " Indonesia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3syJSkfxhs
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