Will Tuscon ever come to outpace Phoenix on account of rising temps?

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

We've locally had several months below average since 97 including a couple this year already (Feb&Mar)

Of course every individual weather stations will have months below average. But as a whole the trend is up. And as a whole the earth has not had a below average month in 8 years. And when you have a city already one of the hottest in the world during the summer that is the problem. At what point is it too hot? Look at Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Hotter than Phoenix year round and people still live there. Hermosillo is another example. As long as there are jobs people will stay in Phoenix.

So the thread topic will rising temps cause people to move to Tucson? There is a difference with the monsoons. Even July so far where the monsoons have been lacking. In Saturday in Tucson 113 about 6pm. Almost as hot as it usually gets here. A storm came in, very strong wind and rain and dropped it to 79 in about 40 minutes. Knocked the power out for a bit. Stayed in the low 80's the rest of the evening. Perfect outdoor exercise weather. Sunday afternoon. It was 110 about 430. Another storm dropped it to the mid 90s quickly. During July and August this usually happens about half the days during those months. Officially maybe 5 degrees cooler than Phoenix but many early evenings can be more than 20 degrees cooler. I know in Phoenix the "monsoon" is mostly dust storms and more humidity. And when a really strong storm hits, trees are down and lots of flooding.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

We've locally had several months below average since 97 including a couple this year already (Feb&Mar)

Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound

Of course every individual weather stations will have months below average. But as a whole the trend is up. And as a whole the earth has not had a below average month in 8 years. And when you have a city already one of the hottest in the world during the summer that is the problem. At what point is it too hot? Look at Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Hotter than Phoenix year round and people still live there. Hermosillo is another example. As long as there are jobs people will stay in Phoenix.

So the thread topic will rising temps cause people to move to Tucson? There is a difference with the monsoons. Even July so far where the monsoons have been lacking. In Saturday in Tucson 113 about 6pm. Almost as hot as it usually gets here. A storm came in, very strong wind and rain and dropped it to 79 in about 40 minutes. Knocked the power out for a bit. Stayed in the low 80's the rest of the evening. Perfect outdoor exercise weather. Sunday afternoon. It was 110 about 430. Another storm dropped it to the mid 90s quickly. During July and August this usually happens about half the days during those months. Officially maybe 5 degrees cooler than Phoenix but many early evenings can be more than 20 degrees cooler. I know in Phoenix the "monsoon" is mostly dust storms and more humidity.

Tucson had an 89°F low yesterday, tied their all time record max low

[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by Elna Rae

Phoenix is uninhabitable?

I'm pretty sure there are several million people living here; quite happily I might add. The heat purifies and filters out the riff raff.

Looking forward to Sunday's 117.

So far...Oklazona is just proving your point

[Elna Rae]

Originally Posted by KurtAZ

So far...Oklazona is just proving your point

As a Phoenix native I couldn't give a rat's azz if it's getting hotter here. Hot is hot. All I care about is that Phoenix doesn't lose the "small town feel". Those who have grown up here know exactly what I'm talking about. Fuggitabout 120 degrees... it's the "6 degrees of separation" that keeps me here.

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[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by Elna Rae

As a Phoenix native I couldn't give a rat's azz if it's getting hotter here. Hot is hot. All I care about is that Phoenix doesn't lose the "small town feel". Those who have grown up here know exactly what I'm talking about. Fuggitabout 120 degrees... it's the "6 degrees of separation" that keeps me here.

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Agreed...was here for the 122°. Once you get over 110°...it is just HOT. We deal with it...those that can't hack it leave.

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Tucson had an 89°F low yesterday, tied their all time record max low

Sunday afternoon a monsoon storm hit but only dropped it in the mid 90's. But it stayed cloudy and humid overnight. It was warm when I did my morning bike ride. Its usually in the 70's just after sunrise.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by Elna Rae

As a Phoenix native I couldn't give a rat's azz if it's getting hotter here. Hot is hot. All I care about is that Phoenix doesn't lose the "small town feel". Those who have grown up here know exactly what I'm talking about. Fuggitabout 120 degrees... it's the "6 degrees of separation" that keeps me here.

I can honestly say that as a native, Phoenix hasn't had a small town feel in many years. Those who expect a place this size to retain a small town vibe are just spinning their wheels & getting nowhere. Growth & development are inevitable whether we like it or not.

To your earlier statement about heat filtering out the riff raff: I find that extremely hard to believe. If anything, the heat brings in more of the undesirable idiotic types. I've seen it all too often: the hotter it is, the worse the behavior is. It has a lot to do with how hot weather negatively affects cognitive brain functions (or what I often call the "fried brain effect").

[Elna Rae]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

I can honestly say that as a native, Phoenix hasn't had a small town feel in many years. Those who expect a place this size to retain a small town vibe are just spinning their wheels & getting nowhere. Growth & development are inevitable whether we like it or not.

To your earlier statement about heat filtering out the riff raff: I find that extremely hard to believe. If anything, the heat brings in more of the undesirable idiotic types. I've seen it all too often: the hotter it is, the worse the behavior is. It has a lot to do with how hot weather negatively affects cognitive brain functions (or what I often call the "fried brain effect").

Well there you go: Two different opinions both probably right. I suspect we travel in different circles.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

I can honestly say that as a native, Phoenix hasn't had a small town feel in many years. Those who expect a place this size to retain a small town vibe are just spinning their wheels & getting nowhere. Growth & development are inevitable whether we like it or not.

To your earlier statement about heat filtering out the riff raff: I find that extremely hard to believe. If anything, the heat brings in more of the undesirable idiotic types. I've seen it all too often: the hotter it is, the worse the behavior is. It has a lot to do with how hot weather negatively affects cognitive brain functions (or what I often call the "fried brain effect").

It's like how Gilbert now has more people than most cities, but still chooses to remain a Town officially. [mod cut -]