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Thank you for the feedback everyone. I'm very aware of what the area is like...it has it's bright spots and quite a few considerably less bright spots. I appreciate the Job Info; I suspected it would be hard for me to find a job...we just weren't sure about my husband. Thanks again for replying!
I knew lots of teachers in the Saratoga area....they were all working in the restaurants I was accounting for. All they did was complain about not being able to get teaching jobs and all had their master's. It was unfortunate to see them go through the job search and come up empty.
I knew lots of teachers in the Saratoga area....they were all working in the restaurants I was accounting for. All they did was complain about not being able to get teaching jobs and all had their master's. It was unfortunate to see them go through the job search and come up empty.
This is unfortunately the case ALMOST EVERYWHERE. Not just in Albany/Upstate. I got my Masters in 1991 and there were very few teaching jobs unless you knew someone. The trend is to graduate too many starry eyed kids from Ed. programs and most of them will never work in a classroom. I know several teacher who drive buses, wait tables, gave up the profession, or just do nanny work.
I've heard the rumors about the tech valley, but I don't know of any booming tech industry in the area. The only industry that has gotten a lot of attention is Global Foundries and the nanotechnology research. But to work in nanotechnology you need to have either a physics or engineering degree, not IT.
This is unfortunately the case ALMOST EVERYWHERE. Not just in Albany/Upstate. I got my Masters in 1991 and there were very few teaching jobs unless you knew someone. The trend is to graduate too many starry eyed kids from Ed. programs and most of them will never work in a classroom. I know several teacher who drive buses, wait tables, gave up the profession, or just do nanny work.
I met a girl back in the late 90's who spent 3 years working on her master's. She wasn't in any rush because She couldn't find a job that whole time. She was waitressing at a bakery/cafe. At the time, I thought that was really sad and wondered if she had decent grades. Nowadays, no one is getting hired. Seems like every school district in the country is laying off teachers.
Part of the problem the Albany area has had for years is that there's too many local colleges that offer education degrees. You've got St Rose and education is their big push and something like half their enrollment. UAlbany, Sage in Albany, Russell Sage in Troy, Skidmore, even Oneonta which isn't far away and has a ton of education majors there. Even SUNY Cobleskill has a bachelor's program in early childhood ed and that's mostly an ag school. Then there's all the associate degree programs that help feed into the 4 year schools. That's a lot of places to get a degree in education in a small area!
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I met a girl back in the late 90's who spent 3 years working on her master's. She wasn't in any rush because She couldn't find a job that whole time. She was waitressing at a bakery/cafe. At the time, I thought that was really sad and wondered if she had decent grades. Nowadays, no one is getting hired. Seems like every school district in the country is laying off teachers.
Part of the problem the Albany area has had for years is that there's too many local colleges that offer education degrees. You've got St Rose and education is their big push and something like half their enrollment. UAlbany, Sage in Albany, Russell Sage in Troy, Skidmore, even Oneonta which isn't far away and has a ton of education majors there. Even SUNY Cobleskill has a bachelor's program in early childhood ed and that's mostly an ag school. Then there's all the associate degree programs that help feed into the 4 year schools. That's a lot of places to get a degree in education in a small area!
Where is it written that if you invest in a degree that a job will be waiting? There too often is a perception that because whoever got the degree than they should be able to find a job, especially teachers. Too many times I hear this with educators and I am getting tired of it. College especially graduate degrees are an investment and like any investment you should do your homework. If the local market (or that you anticipate to live in) has limited openings in your field than is that degree worth it? Each user has to ask that question and if your choosing a field that soemone has to die in order for an opening to occure than pray for a distaster.
Albany is not alone in the volume of area schools, we have 7 within 1 hour that offer degrees in teaching and even more if we cast the net a little farther. Students today need to take a hard look and determine if they will come out of college with marketable skills... If not then they should re-evaluate what is the best path to take.
Where is it written that if you invest in a degree that a job will be waiting? There too often is a perception that because whoever got the degree than they should be able to find a job, especially teachers. Too many times I hear this with educators and I am getting tired of it. College especially graduate degrees are an investment and like any investment you should do your homework. If the local market (or that you anticipate to live in) has limited openings in your field than is that degree worth it? Each user has to ask that question and if your choosing a field that soemone has to die in order for an opening to occure than pray for a distaster.
Albany is not alone in the volume of area schools, we have 7 within 1 hour that offer degrees in teaching and even more if we cast the net a little farther. Students today need to take a hard look and determine if they will come out of college with marketable skills... If not then they should re-evaluate what is the best path to take.
I never said it was "written that if you invest in a degree that a job will be waiting." I think kids are nuts if they are going to school to become teachers right now. I think they're wasting their time and money. They KNOW there are NO jobs and there won't be for years. A lot of colleges push education as a great field. Great for who? They make money off tons of kids who end up with student loans up the wazoo and paying for that education until they're 50 and they end up waiting tables for 5 years until they realize they're never going to get a teaching job then they go get another master's degree in something else.
I do know a number of the colleges do tell students that there are jobs out there waiting for them. Maybe if you're willing to live in a crappy part of NYC or LA and teach at one of the worse schools in the country. My sister-in-law was told she could always get a job teaching if she was willing to relocate and she asked where to. She was told NYC or LA and it would be one of those Joe Clark kind of schools. Yeah, I want to go to school for 7 years so I can teach in a school where they have to chain the place up like Fort Knox! I'd rather be a janitor at Home Depot. Hey and you don't need to spend a fortune on college for that job!
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[quote=ss20ts;26045447]I never said it was "written that if you invest in a degree that a job will be waiting." I think kids are nuts if they are going to school to become teachers right now. I think they're wasting their time and money. They KNOW there are NO jobs and there won't be for years. A lot of colleges push education as a great field. Great for who? They make money off tons of kids who end up with student loans up the wazoo and paying for that education until they're 50 and they end up waiting tables for 5 years until they realize they're never going to get a teaching job then they go get another master's degree in something else.
I do know a number of the colleges do tell students that there are jobs out there waiting for them. Maybe if you're willing to live in a crappy part of NYC or LA and teach at one of the worse schools in the country. My sister-in-law was told she could always get a job teaching if she was willing to relocate and she asked where to. She was told NYC or LA and it would be one of those Joe Clark kind of schools. Yeah, I want to go to school for 7 years so I can teach in a school where they have to chain the place up like Fort Knox! I'd rather be a janitor at Home Depot. Hey and you don't need to spend a fortune on college for that job! [/QUOTE]
And you get employee discount.. My next career will be at Lowes part time for the discount and quality time away from the wife (she'll work at Walmart).
With teachers everywhere they think there should be a job available because they finished their degree. I realize many are in an area because of a spouses job/relocation but perhaps they should consider how it effects their employability before accepting....
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My next career will be at Lowes part time for the discount and quality time away from the wife (she'll work at Walmart).
