Pacific Gas and Electric customers bristle at rate hikes (San Diego: buying, calculated)

[njbiodude]

My whole work is talking about this now everyone is livid.

You can’t fix stupid though. Almost everyone here votes for the same clowns that add extra green regulation to everything despite the fact a lot of it is causing people to be incinerated in utility caused fires. And when the lawsuits start, we have to pay for the lawsuits.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

My whole work is talking about this now everyone is livid.

You can’t fix stupid though. Almost everyone here votes for the same clowns that add extra green regulation to everything despite the fact a lot of it is causing people to be incinerated in utility caused fires. And when the lawsuits start, we have to pay for the lawsuits.

How does green regulation cause people to be incinerated in utility-company-caused fires?

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

How does green regulation cause people to be incinerated in utility-company-caused fires?

The state has been pushing for the transition to green energy heavily. Assuming money is limited far too much has gone to going to wind and solar over simply replacing old sagging wires or burying power lines in dangerous areas.

https://ciceroinstitute.org/pge-failing-california/

[mgforshort]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

How does green regulation cause people to be incinerated in utility-company-caused fires?

"California’s electricity rates are 25% higher than the national average, and nearly one in four customers of the state’s largest utilities are behind on their bills.

Utilities and their regulators, meanwhile, say the cost of providing power will only rise as California responds to climate change. Those costs, they argue, include defending the power grid against extreme weather and expanding it to provide enough power for millions of Californians to power vehicles and cool buildings."

From the Sacramento Bee. The Green New Deal won't be cheap. The State has plans to shift part of the cost to the wealthy to help the poor. I love our rich neighbors and beg them not to move to Montana.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by mgforshort

"California’s electricity rates are 25% higher than the national average, and nearly one in four customers of the state’s largest utilities are behind on their bills.

Utilities and their regulators, meanwhile, say the cost of providing power will only rise as California responds to climate change. Those costs, they argue, include defending the power grid against extreme weather and expanding it to provide enough power for millions of Californians to power vehicles and cool buildings."

From the Sacramento Bee. The Green New Deal won't be cheap. The State has plans to shift part of the cost to the wealthy to help the poor. I love our rich neighbors and beg them not to move to Montana.

But if everyone (rich and poor and in-between) alike moved to Montana: problem solved. Gotta think outside the box.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

But if everyone (rich and poor and in-between) alike moved to Montana: problem solved. Gotta think outside the box.

That's an unrealistic pipe dream. It's never going to happen. Not here, not anywhere as long as the birth rate out numbers the death rate.

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

But if everyone (rich and poor and in-between) alike moved to Montana: problem solved. Gotta think outside the box.

Or would they all just have cheaper electricity

The fact is it now costs as much to heat a 2 bedroom condo on the peninsula as my relatives spend on a 3 bedroom house in NJ where winters are much colder.

At this point the populace needs to just start walking up and realize more government regulations != more fair pricing.

[Axxlrod]

PGE customers getting a taste of what us San Diego residents have been dealing with for years. Unfortunately, it does not get better.

[mgforshort]

The following is from the "California Globe." There is no firewall. I have no idea what method is used to calculate the numbers, true or not, but interesting to read anyway.


"Californians Paying 140% More For Electricity than Other States
These are Governor Gavin Newsom’s policies – he owns it

By Katy Grimes, March 14, 2024 2:55 am

Electricity in Taft, California costs 275% more than what electricity costs in Bullhead City, Arizona. While residents of Los Angeles and San Francisco may feel comfortably smug hundreds of miles away from the Kern County city, it is rare to get a side-by-side comparison of energy bills in neighboring states.

How could this be?

In March, 2023 the California Assembly jammed SBX1-2, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s Gas Tax, through an expedited hearing, pretending that was enough exposure to the public, and debated the bill and voted on it. Gov. Gavin Newsom signed the bill.

Newsom’s Gas Tax also created a new panel of unelected bureaucrats with subpoena power, to investigate oil and gas companies, impose penalties, new costs and regulations, which would inevitably lead to gas shortages, rationing and price spikes. The bill created a new government agency to arbitrarily decide how much profit oil and gas businesses are allowed to make, disrupting California’s energy market and threatening the reliability of the state’s fuel supply,

Dave Noerr is the Mayor of Taft, and also has a home in Bullhead City, AZ. The electricity bills mentioned above are his. The Globe talked once again with Mayor Noerr about California Governor Gavin Newsom’s draconian SBX1-2, and the new agency it created to decide on oil/gas industry profits. "

[JGC97]

In March, 2023 the California Assembly jammed SBX1-2, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s Gas Tax, through an expedited hearing, pretending that was enough exposure to the public, and debated the bill and voted on it. Gov. Gavin Newsom signed the bill.

The Assembly likes to do that sort of thing. They are an evil bunch.