The ever-present threat of fires (Chico, Madera: appointed, rent, insurance)

[mgforshort]

"Bottom lines: (1) There are places where humans simply should not be living. (2) There are also places where fire will always win. Prudent people won't live there."

Fire could happen anywhere. It happened in London, Oakland, Laguna Beach.

During our fire in Paradise, 2018, 85 residents died and the rest was able to get away. A fire that size and speed in a city where rush-hour traffic and congested roads are the norm the victims could be in the thousands or more.

[saibot]

Originally Posted by mgforshort

"Bottom lines: (1) There are places where humans simply should not be living. (2) There are also places where fire will always win. Prudent people won't live there."

Fire could happen anywhere. It happened in London, Oakland, Laguna Beach.

During our fire in Paradise, 2018, 85 residents died and the rest was able to get away. A fire that size and speed in a city where rush-hour traffic and congested roads are the norm the victims could be in the thousands or more.

I don't know about the other places you mentioned, but Laguna Beach is like other fire-prone canyons in that you have houses perched on and among steep, brushy hillsides, and very few ways in and out.

"Fire could happen anywhere" but some places are uniquely fire-prone and many others are really not.

[DannyHobkins]

I just dont know understand the Global Warming crowd wakes up in the morning and are able to survive another day with the sheer stupidy that its the cause. The real reasons are evident, are people people really this naive? Yes.

[johninvegas]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

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If Trumpers really cared about this, they would've funded it at the federal level to be done on the land they owned and incentivized private land owners to do it on their land. Instead, it was around deflecting the blame and doing nothing, which the adminstration and his followers were so skilled at (tackling COVID was another area). Nice try though in deflecting the blame to Sacramento.

So, the Butte fire which nearly took our house in Pine Grove, was in 2015...hmmm, I believe Obama was president then. Perhaps we should blame all presidents from Herbert Hoover on. Then again, if PG&E would have spent the money in the past 50 years to replace the lines that had rotted insulation, maybe the fire danger wouldn't be so great today.

[phinneas j. whoopee]

This is some stupid **** here. The increase in california fires isnt from climate change its because a lot more people are living where there were none before.
Also there are a lot more nutters today that dont restrain their actions. Mass shootings were virtually nonexistent 30 years ago
today they are common. The same psychos are arsons.
The left wants to politicize this issue shamefully, suggesting fire victims should blame themselves for fire damages. They have a very confused agenda in pretending to care about climate change while promoting open borders which gives latin america the opportunity to expand their irresponsible reproduction practices northward so the planet becomes more quickly overpopulated.

Never trust anyone who wishes to forge public policy with their emotions and not logic.

[msgsing]

My daughter is an underwriter for a major insurer of up scale properties here. Her company is pretty much pulling out of the market for these properties. High risk.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

There's a fire going near either Norco or Corona right now. You can see the smoke as far away as Devore

[mgforshort]

I'm reading today that a hazardous gray pine falling on a Pacific Gas and Electric transmission line was declared the cause of the Zogg Fire — the September 2020 blaze that killed four residents of Shasta County.

Nearly six months after the fire that started near the town of Igo, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said Monday that its investigators determined the tree’s brush with the equipment owned and operated by PG&E sparked the blaze. The wildfire exploded to 56,000 acres, fueled by two days of extreme winds; it destroyed more than 200 homes.

Cal Fire has determined that the Zogg Fire was caused by a pine tree contacting electrical transmission lines owned and operated by Pacific Gas & Electric,” Cal Fire said in a statement.

This came from The sacramento Bee.

[saibot]

Originally Posted by HappyinCali

I really love how dumb, misinformed and factually wrong your posts are, but you continue making them with utmost glee and confidence. Blissfully ignoring actual facts and bravely sticking to your guns. I hope one day I, too, have the confidence and assuredness of a mediocre white man.

Good for you

What the heck? You don't think that mismanagement of forestland has contributed to the increased wildfires in California?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by saibot

What the heck? You don't think that mismanagement of forestland has contributed to the increased wildfires in California?

“ the federal government owns nearly 58 percent of California's 33 million acres of forestlands, while the state owns 3 percent, ... ... and the rest is private.