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Old 03-05-2024, 03:31 PM
 
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No it's not a settler country. The same people (although less of them) lived there for thousands of years before European immigration. The food and art is definitely not European.
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Israel is Western, not European. There's a difference. It's a settler colony like the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
Israel was never a colony to anywhere. The US didn’t evolve from one colony and the bulk of the US population descend from people that arrived in the country after it was an independent country. Much of the current US were not British colonies either.

Except for Africa and Asia where the norm is that most of the people have little or no ancestry from previous colonial powers, in the Western Hemisphere from Canada all the way to Argentina and most places in between ancestry of the various colonial powers is extensive.

British ancestries + Irish is extensive in Canada and the USA. French ancestry is widespread in the Canadian province of Quebec and in parts of the USA, namely Louisiana. Spanish ancestry is widespread in most Western Hemisphere countries that evolved from the Spanish Empire. In the Caribbean, European ancestry (mainly Spanish) is widespread in the three Spanish-speaking isles, beyond there it mostly falls off a cliff minus a few exceptions such as St Barts. Portuguese ancestry is widespread in Brazil everywhere you go, from north to south, from east to west. Italian ancestry is widespread in places like Uruguay and Argentina, and even in parts of the USA.

It’s true that the norm in the Western Hemisphere is for the European ancestry to be mixed with something else not European, but the European genetic link. That isn’t acheived if the amount of Europeans that moved were relatively few. Otherwise, much of the Western Hemisphere would be like much of Africa and Asia where many of those places were colonies of some European country, but there is hardly European ancestry found in those places.
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Old 03-09-2024, 05:30 AM
 
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Israel was never a colony to anywhere. The US didn’t evolve from one colony and the bulk of the US population descend from people that arrived in the country after it was an independent country. Much of the current US were not British colonies either.

Except for Africa and Asia where the norm is that most of the people have little or no ancestry from previous colonial powers, in the Western Hemisphere from Canada all the way to Argentina and most places in between ancestry of the various colonial powers is extensive.
To add to the above 60% of Israeli Jewish population today is descended from Middle Eastern & North African Jews who were forced to flee (without their property) their countries of residence after the establishment of the Modern State of Israel.
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Old 03-09-2024, 10:56 PM
 
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To add to the above 60% of Israeli Jewish population today is descended from Middle Eastern & North African Jews who were forced to flee (without their property) their countries of residence after the establishment of the Modern State of Israel.
And they didn't go voluntarily like most of the European Jews prior to the rise of Hitler in Germany in the 1930s. They were kicked out of their own countries where they resided for hundreds, if not nearly a couple of thousand years.
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Old 03-10-2024, 06:07 AM
 
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And they didn't go voluntarily like most of the European Jews prior to the rise of Hitler in Germany in the 1930s. They were kicked out of their own countries where they resided for hundreds, if not nearly a couple of thousand years.
True and they were never compensated financially for the loss of their property, etc.
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Old 03-12-2024, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Israel only competes in continental sports (and music) competitions in Europe and not in Asia or Africa because if its athletes set foot on the soil of Islamic countries they would be easy prey for kidnappings and terrorist attacks. Even at the Berlin Olympics they suffered terrorist attacks.

In the case of Australia, they play club and national team football competitions across Asia in search of greater competitiveness. On its continent, besides New Zealand, there are only small islands that have an amateur level of football.

In South America, Guyana and Suriname, countries with less than 1 million inhabitants, prefer to compete in all sporting competitions in the Caribbean and North American leagues, because they do not have the competitiveness to face teams from the leagues of large South American countries.
Are Israelis even allowed in all apartheid, Islamic nations? There was a time when no one that even had an Israel stamp on there passports was banned from entering Islamic nations. There are still 13 Islamic nations that are so backwards that one can be executed just for being an atheist.
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:11 AM
 
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Are Israelis even allowed in all apartheid, Islamic nations? There was a time when no one that even had an Israel stamp on there passports was banned from entering Islamic nations. There are still 13 Islamic nations that are so backwards that one can be executed just for being an atheist.
Israelis can't travel to Arab countries that are still formally at war with Israel. Also Indonesia will not allow entry to Israeli passport holders (but Israeli dual citizens can enter on their other/non-Israeli passport).
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Old 03-12-2024, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Perth, Australia
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Israel is in no way considered European by anyone in Europe. It is clearly seen as a Middle Eastern nation
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Old 03-12-2024, 09:28 AM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Punctuation is your friend.

I think your question is "why is Israel's culture more European than Asian".

So-what do you consider "Asian" culture? Clearly there is a major difference between Middle Eastern culture (though it's on the Asian continent) than what we consider "Southeast Asian" (what we used to call the Orient) culture or Russian culture, most of which is in Asia. Of those (and I'm sure it could be divided further) Israel is closest to Middle Eastern nations than to Southeast Asian ones in proximity, so that's where the comparison lies.

So, comparing the rest of the Middle East to Israel, the obvious divider is religion. Israel embraces Jewish traditions and culture, embraces science, technology, education, a strong work ethic, and generosity, compassion and humanity. Islamic culture follows the words of an illiterate warlord that murdered, raped, stole and was a pedophile. That told his followers to kill those not subjugated by Islam. One that does not embrace science or progress, but instead embraces 7th century culture. One that embraces violence and conquest, not compassion and humanity.

So...yes. Israel's culture is probably more "European" than "Middle Eastern". I think we should be thankful.
So compassionate as they displace native Palestinians and drop bombs on hospitals.
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:37 AM
 
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Is it true most isrealies have roots in Poland?
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