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I can understand the pride you would feel representing your home nation on the international stage. But a lot of these players are foreign born. You would think a team representing the US of A would actually have players that were born in America. I understand the concept of getting the best players possible. I'm surprised their home nations don't cry foul at team America poaching better players to represent the red, white and blue. You see the same thing with the Olympics. Someone runs fast or jumps high. Fast track them to citizenship so they can win you a few medals. It sort of flies in the face of fair competition. Isn't that a tenet of the Olympics?
What are you talking about? I think the only Team USA mens soccer player not born either in the USA or born as a child to a United States Citizen is Jesus Ferreira, who came here as a child with his unbelievably talented soccer playing father, grew up in Texas, became a US Citizen and plays for his home country USA.
There are 4 more.
Antonee Robinson was born in England, but his dad was a US Citizen.
Sergiño Dest was likewise born overseas in the Netherlands, but was born to a US citizen father as well.
Cameron Carter-Vickers is another son of a US Citizen who has played for the US National teams youth programs since we was 15 years old.
Gio Reyna was also born to two US Citizen parents, born while his amazingly skilled dad was playing professional soccer for Sunderland. when his dad finished there his family moved back Bedford, New York.
I fail to see how any of these players, who are ALL United States Citizens, should be discriminated against. They are US Citizens, born to US parents, just like me. They are as American as I am. That lots of people live around the world, have a family with someone from a different nation, does not mean that their kids are not American. There are NO non-citizens on the US Soccer team.
I think every team steals other players, Australia is particularly good at stealing players from Scotland. 3 players in the current Australian team were born and raised in Scotland, and had never been to Australia until they were asked to play for Australia. However are eligible to play for Australia because their father/mother were born in Australia. They have less connection to Australia than the 3 black Africans in the squad who were all born in Refgee camps before been resettled and growing up in Australia.
On the other hand a particularly talented 18 year old who was born and raised in Sydney, to Italian parents turned down the opportunity to represent Australia.
I think every team steals other players, Australia is particularly good at stealing players from Scotland. 3 players in the current Australian team were born and raised in Scotland, and had never been to Australia until they were asked to play for Australia. However are eligible to play for Australia because their father/mother were born in Australia. They have less connection to Australia than the 3 black Africans in the squad who were all born in Refgee camps before been resettled and growing up in Australia.
On the other hand a particularly talented 18 year old who was born and raised in Sydney, to Italian parents turned down the opportunity to represent Australia.
I thin it is absolutely hysterical that anyone would consider what you describe as STEALING a player. That a player has the sole and exclusive right to decide for themselves which national team they can play for, and even have the right to switch, depending on their age, one time, its is simply NEVER stealing anyone. Instead, the players, who are the only ones that matter, get the exclusive right to decide what is the best fit for them. If their parents (or grandparents in some cases) are citizens of a country, they are citizens of that country by birth. You cannot steal a person. A person makes a choice. All nations try to get the best possible players for their team. Why would they try to get lesser talented players. I truly am at a loss here.
I thin it is that anyone would consider what you describe as STEALING a player. That a player has the sole and exclusive right to decide for themselves which national team they can play for, and even have the right to switch, depending on their age, one time, its is simply NEVER stealing anyone. Instead, the players, who are the only ones that matter, get the exclusive right to decide what is the best fit for them. If their parents (or grandparents in some cases) are citizens of a country, they are citizens of that country by birth. You cannot steal a person. A person makes a choice. All nations try to get the best possible players for their team. Why would they try to get lesser talented players. I truly am at a loss here.
LOL champ ever heard of figurative speech? I am truly at a loss how anyone would ever take that statement in a literal sense.
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This is suppose to be about USA team, and I just posted the roster. Most are not born outside US.
I'd consider 20% of a team's roster a lot. Most was never mentioned. 1 player was born while his ghanian mom was in the US on vacation. So while technically a US citizen, he was raised in Italy & England.
I do see it's not just the US that takes great strides in getting around the rule of who gets to represent your nation. Why not just let all the nations fight over the most talented players. Because that's what they are doing on a micro level.
At the end of the day, the only way America wins the world cup is to take the best dozen players in the world, make them citizens then play for the cup.
A Spanish guy who emigrated from Spain to Florida USA,one of his sons is a swimmer,he represented Spain in the Olympic race.
It is the father 's idea .
a player has the sole and exclusive right to decide for themselves which national team they can play for
If the rule was you can only represent the nation where you were born, then getting to choose who you represent isn't allowed. Your nation of birth isn't fluid. Deciding you are a citizen of nation X because of some familial lineage is shaky at best. But it appears the soccer powers to be allow it, so teams to it to their advantage. And people like me will question how someone born in nation X gets to play for a team that represents nation Y.
A Spanish guy who emigrated from Spain to Florida USA,one of his sons is a swimmer,he represented Spain in the Olympic race.
It is the father 's idea .
So where was the son born? To me, that would be the determinant of which nation he represents.
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