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They gotta start somewhere. If someone is expecting to make good money, however that's defined at the entry level, they're delusional. Until someone gets some experience and working knowledge, they just aren't worth that much.
The deal with NYC was always, come here, live low for a few years as you get knowledge, experience. and reputation, then you can ramp up your earnings using those. The kid coming up now never got that memo, and expect success to be just handed to them. They're the participation trophy kids, and that conditioning is now biting them in the ass-ets.
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There is a big difference between choosing an employer you would like to work for and settling for anything just to get by.
With inflation through the roof, housing being sky high, I can’t imagine any kid being too excited about slaving for 50k a year.
My hat is off to anyone who figure out how to work from home and make very good money. F the whole 9-5 going to work every day.
They gotta start somewhere. If someone is expecting to make good money, however that's defined at the entry level, they're delusional. Until someone gets some experience and working knowledge, they just aren't worth that much.
The deal with NYC was always, come here, live low for a few years as you get knowledge, experience. and reputation, then you can ramp up your earnings using those. The kid coming up now never got that memo, and expect success to be just handed to them. They're the participation trophy kids, and that conditioning is now biting them in the ass-ets.
Much easier said than done nowadays. Not that easy to come here and "live low" for a few years. SROs are virtually extinct. Most jobs want a degree as well, so can't blame people for seeking higher education. Nowadays, higher education is a requirement for most jobs that only required a HS diploma.
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They gotta start somewhere. If someone is expecting to make good money, however that's defined at the entry level, they're delusional. Until someone gets some experience and working knowledge, they just aren't worth that much.
The deal with NYC was always, come here, live low for a few years as you get knowledge, experience. and reputation, then you can ramp up your earnings using those. The kid coming up now never got that memo, and expect success to be just handed to them. They're the participation trophy kids, and that conditioning is now biting them in the ass-ets.
If you can convince your kid to stay and live with you till 28 while they go from 50k to 100 k that’s great. Not sure how many youngsters want to do that at that age. I moved out at 20 making 50k in 2000 or so. Wanted to rent my own place and party as much as possible. I wish I stayed longer and saved a lot more money for a house but you are young once.
If my kids decide to start a life outside of nyc I’ll be very glad and they will have my full support. But if they want to stay here, I’ll try to convince them to live with us and save as much as possible.
Lucky for Gen Z they have social media to cry and get some attention. How can she survive the 90s or early 2000s when people experienced the bigger recession and no social media to cry about.
Such a snowflake she is, NYC is not for the weak minded if you don't have family here. Once you make it here on your own you can make it anywhere.
All this goes to show that Biden's claim that unemployment is at historical lows is fake.
I'm sorry, but that seems both heartless and obtuse. Why would you mock anyone for having no luck in trying to reach an admirable goal? Aspiring hopeful young people are the lifeblood of NYC. And, of course, this also has nothing to do with unemployment, which is never uniform - which, by the way, is probably based on statistics coming from the Department of Labor and have nothing directly to do with Biden, anyway.
They can live with a few roommates in the Bronx. It can be done. They just feel that they're entitled not to do it.
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Much easier said than done nowadays. Not that easy to come here and "live low" for a few years. SROs are virtually extinct. Most jobs want a degree as well, so can't blame people for seeking higher education. Nowadays, higher education is a requirement for most jobs that only required a HS diploma.
You do realize there are a lot of people living on $50K or probably less (and not on welfare) in NYC, don't you? It's not comfortable, but it can be done. They just can't live the Sex in the City lifestyle (unless they're good looking women and can find men to pay their bills.)
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If you can convince your kid to stay and live with you till 28 while they go from 50k to 100 k that’s great. Not sure how many youngsters want to do that at that age. I moved out at 20 making 50k in 2000 or so. Wanted to rent my own place and party as much as possible. I wish I stayed longer and saved a lot more money for a house but you are young once.
If my kids decide to start a life outside of nyc I’ll be very glad and they will have my full support. But if they want to stay here, I’ll try to convince them to live with us and save as much as possible.
They can live with a few roommates in the Bronx. It can be done. They just feel that they're entitled not to do it.
If it was your kid, you wouldn't be the happiest camper about that
Tell me I'm lying
I feel you're giving out advice that you would not take yourself, or impart upon your loved ones.
Otherwise, why single out the Bronx
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Happiest camper? No, probably not. But I'd also figure they had to do what they had to do.
Depending on what they wanted to do career-wise, I might tell them to try another city where they could live better on less money. But some careers get much more development in NYC then they would out in the country. In that case, I'd tell them to suck it up an deal.
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If it was your kid, you wouldn't be the happiest camper about that
Tell me I'm lying
Happiest camper? No, probably not. But I'd also figure they had to do what they had to do.
Depending on what they wanted to do career-wise, I might tell them to try another city where they could live better on less money. But some careers get much more development in NYC then they would out in the country. In that case, I'd tell them to suck it up an deal.
I went to college in late 1990s early 2000s, it was still possible to get a decent-paying private sector job with a HS diploma
That's not possible anymore
Can't fault these kids for going to college, you need a degree for most jobs nowadays
Cant call degrees worthless when most employers are requiring them
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You do realize there are a lot of people living on $50K or probably less (and not on welfare) in NYC, don't you? It's not comfortable, but it can be done. They just can't live the Sex in the City lifestyle (unless they're good looking women and can find men to pay their bills.)
Living pay check to pay check renting someone’s else’s apartment in crappy neighborhood is not living. That’s surviving.
Living with roommates it’s just degrading in my book.
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