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Old 11-10-2023, 10:46 AM
 
Location: The Bronx
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Meanwhile, a bunch of restaurants and increasing weekend nightlife on Tremont, and the resulting traffic, with more cars, more bikers, etc, get let off the hook.......!

Full disclosure: I know a venue owner on Tremont. Won't tell you who that person is or the venue. But the joint be popping, almost every night. I don't hear anything from the owner about any large-scale community complaints.

I jog by that corner of Bruckner and Tremont, from time to time (where the development is proposed). I believe there is a bar and beauty shop on one side of the street and an indoor batting cage on the other side, on Bruckner. I forget what else is there.

I think Velasquez new/thought the development might be going forward, anyway, but wanted to make the initiative work for the neighborhood. That's why she advocated union work and neighborhood job preference. But the neighborhood didn't want that, either. I see a bit of what Yonkers went through, back in the 80s. The question is, however, how much the residents are willing to fight a development that still may go forward.
These new restaurants are destinations…. Very few locals go there… East Tremont in Throgs Neck became the Bronx’s destination for people (mostly Dominicans) from the entire borough…. Making it look way different weekend nights than the rest of the week. Not all these spots are great, not all of them are bad, but the crowd it draws isn’t always the best.

Locals go to Brewski, Legends, Bridges and the Wicked Wolf, and you can tell, going to Brewski’s feels like being in a bar around Marine Park… and unlike what was mentioned before these “whites” that live in Throgs Neck are not “old whites”, they’re in their 20’s, 30’s and 40’s.

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Old 11-10-2023, 11:00 AM
 
Location: The Bronx
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What types of neighborhoods are Throgs Neck and Morris Park? Dominated by the middle class or the working class and poor? The typical education level of the residents is high school or university?

I could be wrong, but isn't most of The Bronx dominated by the working class? If the two neighborhoods tend to be above the average for The Bronx, I would think this might be a sign of change in certain neighborhoods in the borough, but not The Bronx as a whole.

Interesting she used to work in Greenwich Hospital in Greenwich, CT. I wonder if I once met or spoke to her? I never have worked at the Greenwich Hospital, but have been there a few times.
Once again, District 13 is more than just Morris Park and Throgs Neck. It also includes Pelham Parkway (not exactly majority White), Pelham Bay, Pelham Gardens and Country Club (that one very conservative)…

And as I stated before a loooooooot of Hispanics in the district are now voting Republican.

During the last presidential election it wasn’t unusual to see houses with both the Puerto Rican flag and the Trump 2020 flag.

Also, as Democrat as the Bronx historically is, they have moderates, no Brooklyn or Manhattan-type woke Democrats, no Democratic Socialist of America.

Lifelong Democrat, Puerto-Rico born (Black) Ruben Diaz Sr (father of former borough President), former NY State Senator and NYC councilman rejoiced and applauded Marmorato’s victory and is cheering the fact that more “minorities” are voting Republican. Ha was Celebes with them in front of the Bronx Republican party’s headquarters.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:01 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Throggs Neck, Country Club and Pelham Bay have historically been purple to red.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:19 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Residents were that pissed off with Marjoie Velasquez's support of an affordable housing development on Bruckner and Tremont, citing potential declining property values. Velasquez initially opposed it, but on different grounds; she wanted both union and neighborhood work. The developer agreed. However, residents don't want the development, at all. Also, the possibility that Velasquez may have been muscled by both the mayor and speaker, to reverse course, and support the development. How much did that weigh with voter outrage?

Now, Marmorato may have a two-fold problem: a council vote where she will be one of few no's on the development, which is more than likely going forward, anyway. Or, as payback, that district may not get priority when it comes to future services (although I don't see that happening).
There has never been any concern by New York City politicians whatsoever for the quality of life of its residents, they have always been influenced/dominated/paid off by real estate developers since at least the early 1800s when they first created that first street plan for Manhattan without almost any parks (today's Central Park and other parks are not supposed to be there).

The Bronx is actually smaller physically then Boston but has twice the amount of people!!! How many more people do they want to stuff in there? And building a low-income development far from the subway but next to an interstate highway? It makes no sense.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:20 PM
 
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There has never been any concern by New York City politicians whatsoever for the quality of life of its residents, they have always been influenced/dominated/paid off by real estate developers since at least the early 1800s when they first created that first street plan for Manhattan without almost any parks (today's Central Park and other parks are not supposed to be there).

The Bronx is actually smaller physically then Boston but has twice the amount of people!!! How many more people do they want to stuff in there? And building a low-income development far from the subway but next to an interstate highway? It makes no sense.
It makes a lot of sense for Marjorie Velazquez whose father is a real estate développer and who was going to be in charge of the project !
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Old 11-10-2023, 05:21 PM
 
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Residents were that pissed off with Marjoie Velasquez's support of an affordable housing development on Bruckner and Tremont, citing potential declining property values. Velasquez initially opposed it, but on different grounds; she wanted both union and neighborhood work. The developer agreed. However, residents don't want the development, at all. Also, the possibility that Velasquez may have been muscled by both the mayor and speaker, to reverse course, and support the development. How much did that weigh with voter outrage?

Now, Marmorato may have a two-fold problem: a council vote where she will be one of few no's on the development, which is more than likely going forward, anyway. Or, as payback, that district may not get priority when it comes to future services (although I don't see that happening).
Velasquez was stabbed in back by her progressive, liberal socialist democrats on city council (including speaker) who told her that mega development was going to happen with or without her support. Long story short council had votes to override or otherwise ignore whatever Velasquez wanted, so she just went with the flow and changed her vote.

https://gothamist.com/news/rezoning-...e-election-bid

From speaker on down members of democratic majority of CC are making it known it will become increasing difficult for members to kill "affordable", "low income", "supportive" and whatever else housing that developers want to build in their district. Maybe if enough democrats lose to republicans that will change, but for now things are what they are.

https://gothamist.com/news/rezoning-...e-election-bid
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Old 11-10-2023, 05:29 PM
 
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Now if we could just get rid of AOC!
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Old 11-10-2023, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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There has never been any concern by New York City politicians whatsoever for the quality of life of its residents, they have always been influenced/dominated/paid off by real estate developers since at least the early 1800s when they first created that first street plan for Manhattan without almost any parks (today's Central Park and other parks are not supposed to be there).

The Bronx is actually smaller physically then Boston but has twice the amount of people!!! How many more people do they want to stuff in there? And building a low-income development far from the subway but next to an interstate highway? It makes no sense.
Just from my perspective, Bruckner/Tremont isn't that far from the subway (a five-minute Bx40/42 busride to Westchester Square). Although a development at the WS location may have been a better location. And, I could see some places where it could have been put. But regardless, the level of opposition to this is really interesting....!
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Old 11-10-2023, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Velasquez was stabbed in back by her progressive, liberal socialist democrats on city council (including speaker) who told her that mega development was going to happen with or without her support. Long story short council had votes to override or otherwise ignore whatever Velasquez wanted, so she just went with the flow and changed her vote.

https://gothamist.com/news/rezoning-...e-election-bid

From speaker on down members of democratic majority of CC are making it known it will become increasing difficult for members to kill "affordable", "low income", "supportive" and whatever else housing that developers want to build in their district. Maybe if enough democrats lose to republicans that will change, but for now things are what they are.

https://gothamist.com/news/rezoning-...e-election-bid
Which is why Velasquez tried to make it work, as opposed to fight it. Let's see if/how Mamarato deals with this, with a fight that may/may not be winnable.

The chance of this council flipping anywhere near to GOP....!
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Old 11-10-2023, 08:02 PM
 
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mods need to fix the title
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