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Plant hardiness is based on the annual average lowest recorded temperature for a year. A useless statistic for defining a climate.
I lived in an area that averages 5-10 degrees warmer than New York City on most days throughout the year, but due to Canadian cold fronts, excessively dry air, and high elevation, it regularly gets a brief period where temps dip lower than NYCs average lowest for a winter thus putting it in a colder hardiness zone than NYC even though average winter highs and lows are significantly warmer than NYC .
Ultimately, climactic zones are based on arbitrary criteria and different climatologists have used different criteria that lump cities which under other classifications are in seperate zones.
Koeppen has long been a popular climactic classification system, but it is hardly the authoritative one and most other systems lump NYC with cities further north rather than cities further south.
NYC does have a humid subtropical climate with cool winters, warm autumns, very warm springs and hot and humid summers with occasional thunderstorms.
Plant hardiness is based on the annual average lowest recorded temperature for a year. A useless statistic for defining a climate.
I lived in an area that averages 5-10 degrees warmer than New York City on most days throughout the year, but due to Canadian cold fronts, excessively dry air, and high elevation, it regularly gets a brief period where temps dip lower than NYCs average lowest for a winter thus putting it in a colder hardiness zone than NYC even though average winter highs and lows are significantly warmer than NYC .
Ultimately, climactic zones are based on arbitrary criteria and different climatologists have used different criteria that lump cities which under other classifications are in seperate zones.
Koeppen has long been a popular climactic classification system, but it is hardly the authoritative one and most other systems lump NYC with cities further north rather than cities further south.
NYC has a humid subtropical climate with cool winters, warm autumns, very warm springs, and hot and humid summers with occasional thunderstorms.. Also have you seen the temperatures lately: 72 degrees on Christmas eve and mid 60s on Christmas day. This is beach weather. 🌴.
Plant hardiness is based on the annual average lowest recorded temperature for a year. A useless statistic for defining a climate.
I lived in an area that averages 5-10 degrees warmer than New York City on most days throughout the year, but due to Canadian cold fronts, excessively dry air, and high elevation, it regularly gets a brief period where temps dip lower than NYCs average lowest for a winter thus putting it in a colder hardiness zone than NYC even though average winter highs and lows are significantly warmer than NYC .
Ultimately, climactic zones are based on arbitrary criteria and different climatologists have used different criteria that lump cities which under other classifications are in seperate zones.
Koeppen has long been a popular climactic classification system, but it is hardly the authoritative one and most other systems lump NYC with cities further north rather than cities further south.
Plant hardiness is extremely important for defining a climate. Have you ever heard of farmers? They have to plant by plant hardiness. Not just farmers, but gardeners and of course landscapers (for parks and whoever else has property that needs to be landscaped).
Plant hardiness is extremely important for defining a climate. Have you ever heard of farmers? They have to plant by plant hardiness. Not just farmers, but gardeners and of course landscapers (for parks and whoever else has property that needs to be landscaped).
I wouldn't really say plant hardiness zone is "EXTREMELY" important for defining a climate. For example Las Cruces, NM hardiness zone is 8a and Washington DC is also 8a, but yet they have totally different climates. DC is humid subtropical and Las Cruces is a desert climate (arid).
"Examples of subtropical cities and areas around the world include (see map above for more details):
...with... New York City, and Cape Cod, Massachusetts barely making qualifications on the northern extent."
This is ridiculous. You're telling me an area featuring average high temperatures in the 20s during winter and dozens of inches of snow per year subtropical?
I'm not necessarily saying NYC should be considered subtropical, but the average high temperature there in the winter is in the 40s, not the 20s. The average mean temperature in any month is also 32F or higher, which is why it barely qualifies as humid subtropical under the Koppen classification. I would agree that it has more in common with the warmer humid continental climates than with the typical subtropical climates.
I think the answer is quite simple....anywhere that Palm trees can grow is subtropical. The furtherst north you will see Palm trees is North Carolina = the northernmost border of subtropical.
They seem to do well in Virginia Beach, although palm trees are only native on the East Coast starting in NC. This picture was taken on the Virginia Beach boardwalk:
They seem to do well in Virginia Beach, although palm trees are only native on the East Coast starting in NC. This picture was taken on the Virginia Beach boardwalk:
I believe the Sabal Minor is native to (very small) area of Virginia.
We actually have parrots in NYC. They nest in Brooklyn around the Brooklyn college campus.
Yes there are parrots in NYC. There are parrots in Chicago too. And in Europe even. Certain tropical birds can adapt to cold. Peacocks can live in NYC weather too.
Actually, Pittsburgh's not in the Humid subtropical zone. It's too far inland, too hilly and too far
north. It has snowed measurable amounts between October and April 25. And the last freeze isn't until early May. Subtropical places are lucky to see frost at all, any time of year. We average around 50 inches every winter. Some have more, some have less. Pittsburgh is continental. Average January highs and lows for Pittsburgh International Airport are 33 and 20, respectively. Koppen says January has 40s for highs and 30 or so for lows in the humid subtropical zone. And each of the seasons vary too much also. Subtropical places are more even.
Pittsburgh is slightly colder than Boston, despite being located south of New York City, due to distance from the ocean and elevation. If it were at the same latitude, but closer to sea level and the ocean, it could possibly be classified as subtropical, although still not really.
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