Nov 2022 Moscow UofI student stabbings (Clark Fork: legal, rating, buildings)

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by Clark Fork Fantast

The prosecution has a 3-D version of the whole house that can be used at the trial. One viewer in a livestream of the demolition (out of Florida!) commented that the jury would have been able to judge, on the site, how much you can hear from one floor to the next, which was a good point IMO, but I don't think jurors can just walk around on their own and do their own "investigation" during a walk-through. Anyway, it's done.

Hearing from one floor to the next is irrelevant, some people are extremely deep sleepers. Pretty certain my husband could sleep through a freight train coming through our house!

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

I find it very interesting that they demolitioned the house under the cover of darkness of night. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but they sure are doing their best to feed the people who are.

The timing of the demolition made perfect sense to me.
Demolishing a house can be very dangerous business, and that house had drawn so much world-wide attention for so long there it was bound to attract a lot of onlookers if the demolition date had been made public.
Done in the early morning, there was no crowd and no interference. The place was quickly knocked down, and the longest part of the job, hauling away the rubble, took place on empty streets. So no souvenir hunters got the opportunity to take away pieces of it.

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by cleosmom

Hearing from one floor to the next is irrelevant, some people are extremely deep sleepers. Pretty certain my husband could sleep through a freight train coming through our house!

It's often difficult to tell where a sound in a home comes from too.

In college houses like this, the residents all become very used to people coming and going at all hours.

[Keim]

Originally Posted by banjomike

The timing of the demolition made perfect sense to me.
Demolishing a house can be very dangerous business, and that house had drawn so much world-wide attention for so long there it was bound to attract a lot of onlookers if the demolition date had been made public.
Done in the early morning, there was no crowd and no interference. The place was quickly knocked down, and the longest part of the job, hauling away the rubble, took place on empty streets. So no souvenir hunters got the opportunity to take away pieces of it.

The date, though not the time, was well publicized.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by Keim

The date, though not the time, was well publicized.

That brings the question, why did they publicize the date at all? They could have just announced that it would be torn down at some point over the winter break. But to publicize an exact date and then tear it down the night before, was a pretty clear attempt to mislead the news media.

It appears to me that they just wanted to tear the house down in the darkness of night, and hope that no one would notice, and everyone would just forget it was ever there. Well I don't think it's going to be that simple, unfortunately.

[Keim]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

That brings the question, why did they publicize the date at all? They could have just announced that it would be torn down at some point over the winter break. But to publicize an exact date and then tear it down the night before, was a pretty clear attempt to mislead the news media.

It appears to me that they just wanted to tear the house down in the darkness of night, and hope that no one would notice, and everyone would just forget it was ever there. Well I don't think it's going to be that simple, unfortunately.

It wasn't torn down in the night. It was first thing in the morning, and some media was there.

[Clark Fork Fantast]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

That brings the question, why did they publicize the date at all? They could have just announced that it would be torn down at some point over the winter break. But to publicize an exact date and then tear it down the night before, was a pretty clear attempt to mislead the news media.

It appears to me that they just wanted to tear the house down in the darkness of night, and hope that no one would notice, and everyone would just forget it was ever there. Well I don't think it's going to be that simple, unfortunately.

Cleosmom is right: it was early in the morning. I watched it in livestream (the one out of Florida) around 8 am--and at 8 am it is still dark in NID! They had guards posted so people wouldn't walk away with souvenirs from the debris.

[Keim]

Originally Posted by Clark Fork Fantast

Cleosmom is right: it was early in the morning. I watched it in livestream (the one out of Florida) around 8 am--and at 8 am it is still dark in NID! They had guards posted so people wouldn't walk away with souvenirs from the debris.

Sunrise this time of year is around 7:30...

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by Keim

Sunrise this time of year is around 7:30...

Yes, and the house was pretty much gone by that time. Anybody who thinks its normal for demolition crews to tear a house down before 7:30 am, don't know very much about demolition work. That's the time crews normally start work, not finish it. In most places there are regulations against even doing that type of work before 8:00 am.

There was nothing normal about the decision to start work that early. This was a clear attempt to throw off the news media. But all they are accomplishing is to feed the conspiracy theorists, who will be going on about this for years to come. I think it was a very bad move on the part of the University.

[Keim]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

Yes, and the house was pretty much gone by that time. Anybody who thinks its normal for demolition crews to tear a house down before 7:30 am, don't know very much about demolition work. That's the time crews normally start work, not finish it. In most places there are regulations against even doing that type of work before 8:00 am.

There was nothing normal about the decision to start work that early. This was a clear attempt to throw off the news media. But all they are accomplishing is to feed the conspiracy theorists, who will be going on about this for years to come. I think it was a very bad move on the part of the University.

If they wanted to throw off the news media, they simply wouldn't have let the date be known-it was well publicized.

This was an attempt to avoid a large number of lookie lous that would be too lazy to get up that early.