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It snowed in the Twin Cities this year in April. Didn't stick though. I don't think it's ever snowed here in June though.
June snow has been recorded in places like International Falls, Hibbing and Grand Rapids i.e inland Minnesota north of Duluth and fairly close to the Canadian border. And for what it's worth we're talking about historic 'once in a century' type events here which for various reasons may not occur again in the foreseeable future.
May snow however is still relatively frequent in those types of areas like not every year, but maybe every couple of years.
June snow has been recorded in places like International Falls, Hibbing and Grand Rapids i.e inland Minnesota north of Duluth and fairly close to the Canadian border. And for what it's worth we're talking about historic 'once in a century' type events here which for various reasons may not occur again in the foreseeable future.
May snow however is still relatively frequent in those types of areas like not every year, but maybe every couple of years.
Snow in June is very common in Northern Rockies and the Cascades.
I appreciate that January in Boston is getting warmer. It would make sense, if the ocean is getting warmer, that it would have a bigger impact on a coastal city. But I'm not talking about January weather.
I'm talking about the duration of winter. Even if you want to cherry pick the last 4 years - the difference in temps is apparent in March and April. As I said, Boston is 3 weeks behind on the thaw and 3 weeks sooner to go into the freeze in November/December.
March 13, 14, 15 of this year in Philly it was 72, 76, and 75 degrees respectively. On those same days in Boston it was 47, 49, and 44. That's an extreme example but the average difference is still in the range of 7 degrees. Late March in Philadelphia is Spring, always has been, temps in the low-60s to low-70s are not an everyday thing but are not exactly uncommon.
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Originally Posted by masssachoicetts
Okay lets rewind and take this slower.
-Boston is colder than Philadelphia. Historically has been ~7-8 degrees colder.
-However, due to climate change, Boston is in New England, the fastest warming region in the country (World someone said above?)
-Boston has warmed over 1.1 degrees F every decade since 1980. Philadelphia has been like 0.5 degrees... whatever it says upthread. I dont remember.
-Boston, Southern New England in general, is warming very fast. So the difference between them and the cities south of them are becoming smaller and smaller.
-Boston's winter, therefore, is not 6 months long compared to NYC at 3-4 months. If anything Boston's winter is 3.5 months and NYC's is 3 months.
-We also can see that Boston's average snowcover went from almost 65 days 50 years ago, to under a month in the 2010s.... even less so today (Probably less than 20 days of snowcover a year).
Everywhere is warming, but New England is warming the fastest. The farther north you go. Burlington VT is warming much faster than Boston is for example.
When I grew up in Boston in the 00s, it was a much different climate (believe it or not...). Now, I barely can tell the difference between North Jersey and SE MA. 20 years ago? Big difference. Now? Not so much.
40 years from now, at these trends, NNJ may have the same weather as Fayetteville NC and Boston may have the same weather as Virginia Beach VA do today.
Scary stuff...
Also, in the 2020s: Boston's average temperature in January is 34 degree. Philadelphia is 37. NYC is 38. In the 80s? There was a MUCH bigger difference. Source: Just look above at the WSJ article lol
I appreciate that January in Boston is getting warmer. It would make sense, if the ocean is getting warmer, that it would have a bigger impact on a coastal city. But I'm not talking about January weather.
I'm talking about the duration of winter. Even if you want to cherry pick the last 4 years - the difference in temps is apparent in March and April. As I said, Boston is 3 weeks behind on the thaw and 3 weeks sooner to go into the freeze in November/December.
March 13, 14, 15 of this year in Philly it was 72, 76, and 75 degrees respectively. On those same days in Boston it was 47, 49, and 44. That's an extreme example but the average difference is still in the range of 7 degrees. Late March in Philadelphia is Spring, always has been, temps in the low-60s to low-70s are not an everyday thing but are not exactly uncommon.
SE Mass and Northern NJ just aren't that different climates to begin with.
New Bedford has an average temperature of 52.4
Newark has an average temperature of 55.5
For reference:
Philadelphia is 56.3
Worcester is 48.1
So the difference just between Worcester and New Bedford is bigger than the difference between New Bedford and Philly or NNJ. Keep in mind Worcester isn't even north of Boston, just west.
IMO the real warmup transition happens once you get south of Richmond around Virginia Beach to Nags Head NC you start getting annual averages in the 60s and most winter nights don't go below freezing.
those averages don't tell the whole story though. The seasonal averages don't always match the annual averages. As carephilly points out, the biggest difference between these areas is often in the Spring, although winter is also quite different. Typically summer and autumns are less different, since the northern parts get pretty hot at times throughout the summer and early autumn.
SE Mass and Northern NJ just aren't that different climates to begin with.
New Bedford has an average temperature of 52.4
Newark has an average temperature of 55.5
For reference:
Philadelphia is 56.3
Worcester is 48.1
So the difference just between Worcester and New Bedford is bigger than the difference between New Bedford and Philly or NNJ. Keep in mind Worcester isn't even north of Boston, just west.
IMO the real warmup transition happens once you get south of Richmond around Virginia Beach to Nags Head NC you start getting annual averages in the 60s and most winter nights don't go below freezing.
those averages don't tell the whole story though. The seasonal averages don't always match the annual averages. As carephilly points out, the biggest difference between these areas is often in the Spring, although winter is also quite different. Typically summer and autumns are less different, since the northern parts get pretty hot at times throughout the summer and early autumn.
+Ringwood/Sussex NJ is colder than New Bedford or Middleborough MA
I think Denver has the best four seasons weather but it’s snowed there in May.
Denver? Can you remind me which East Coast state is Denver in?
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