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Old 04-04-2024, 07:28 PM
 
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2022 polling average for the PA Senate Race had Oz(R) +0.4

Election result was Fetterman (D) +4.9

The Democrat outperformed the polling average by 5 points.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...z-vs-fetterman

***Per the above link for the 2022 PA Senate polls, pollster FRANKLIN and MARSHALL had Fetterman +4. That's the same pollster in this thread for the 2024 Biden-Trump poll.

 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:00 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Well, the Democrats should stop spending money on Pennsylvania. They should take the money they would spend in PA and invest in turning Florida blue.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Well, the Democrats should stop spending money on Pennsylvania. They should take the money they would spend in PA and invest in turning Florida blue.
Guess what?

Biden campaign announces it will target flipping Trump’s Florida

Too bad you've got me on ignore.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:28 PM
 
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Guess what?

Biden campaign announces it will target flipping Trump’s Florida

Too bad you've got me on ignore.
Bluffing. Biden has Charlie Crist's popularity in Florida. This is Chavez Rodriguez talking out of her behind. He has NO chance. Just for her to get on the news and pretend she is earning her paycheck.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:36 PM
 
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2022 polling average for the PA Senate Race had Oz(R) +0.4

Election result was Fetterman (D) +4.9

The Democrat outperformed the polling average by 5 points.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...z-vs-fetterman

***Per the above link for the 2022 PA Senate polls, pollster FRANKLIN and MARSHALL had Fetterman +4. That's the same pollster in this thread for the 2024 Biden-Trump poll.
Is that your spin. Fettermam was leading in all the polls for the whole year. Then late October, Oz closed in by the end of the month but it was too late. Oz was too behind the whole year but you want to predict that on Biden, go ahead. He has been behind in the polls for over 6 months.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:48 PM
 
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Everyone with any sense knows that this poll is an outlier. If Trump were up 10+ in Pennsylvania it would be just as ridiculous.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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I would say that this is an outlier, considering all other polling has it tied or a Trump win.
I have to agree. There was no big event to account for such a sudden shift.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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538 has Franklin and Marshall ranked 57. It's not a top-tier polling outfit but appears to be legit.

RCP has no rating for them
Sometimes the outlier is actually the one that has it right all along. That's what happened in 2016 with the LA Times, I believe that they were one of the few, if not only, organizations that called the election for Trump. They were also using a relatively new methodology that even had them thinking they could be wrong.

I don't think they found some magic 8 ball, their sample size is about a low as you can go to be representative and they use registered voters which given the amount of people that seem to be thinking of sitting out probably points to their poll overstating the race.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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Bluffing. Biden has Charlie Crist's popularity in Florida. This is Chavez Rodriguez talking out of her behind. He has NO chance. Just for her to get on the news and pretend she is earning her paycheck.
I'm pretty sure that FL is definitely in Trump's corner but recent happenings in the state, mainly abortion, give enough of an "it's possible" vibe that to have the Dems put money into the state doesn't seem like a fool's errand. This is where the DNC money advantage will come in handy, I'm sure Trump would have thought that he didn't need to spend money in FL but if the DNC starts putting money in, Trump will have to as well. That's going to hurt because that going to pull from the states where he desperately needs to spend the money.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 10:57 PM
 
Location: az
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Sometimes the outlier is actually the one that has it right all along. That's what happened in 2016 with the LA Times, I believe that they were one of the few, if not only, organizations that called the election for Trump. They were also using a relatively new methodology that even had them thinking they could be wrong.

I don't think they found some magic 8 ball, their sample size is about a low as you can go to be representative and they use registered voters which given the amount of people that seem to be thinking of sitting out probably points to their poll overstating the race.
538 and RCP rate these three polling outfits as very good.

1 New York Times/Siena

2 Suffolk University

3 Emerson College
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