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Old 01-12-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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the quality of produce and meats and other foods, in some of the stores in inner cities where they are in walking distance..... not fit for human consumption. Because even if these stores are in walkable areas, they're not a good option. They're the only option. They call those areas "grocery deserts", because they lack good options.

The better stores tend to be much further and people on limited mobility and income just can't afford transportation. Don't get me started on that.....
Not round these parts. My very walkable neighborhood has a store of our Metro's premier grocery chains in it. In fact, we shop there less frequently (but almost always on foot) than we do at a store of a chain of our Metro's moderate priced chain, because of the cost (~30% higher most items). My wife's office is in the burbs so she drives every day, and stops by the moderate priced store once a week. There is also a Trader Joe's on the bus line I ride to work on. I can hop off the bus and get a bag or 2 of groceries on the way home, then catch another bus home. Not that big a deal.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Where Else...?
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Not round these parts. My very walkable neighborhood has a store of our Metro's premier grocery chains in it. In fact, we shop there less frequently (but almost always on foot) than we do at a store of a chain of our Metro's moderate priced chain, because of the cost (~30% higher most items). My wife's office is in the burbs so she drives every day, and stops by the moderate priced store once a week. There is also a Trader Joe's on the bus line I ride to work on. I can hop off the bus and get a bag or 2 of groceries on the way home, then catch another bus home. Not that big a deal.
I wasn't referring to most areas, just some.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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LOL, anytime it rains here people think its a category 5 hurricane on the way and they stock up on water, canned goods and propane tanks.

Don't know if you have ever lived near the coast in areas where hurricane strikes but running to the corner to buy groceries is not always an option in these areas.

A couple of times a year many people HAVE to stock up. whether they live next to a grocery store or not.

Just because someone says they are stocking up doesn't necessarily mean they live far so they are buying in bulk. My first place was within a mile of Kroger, Randalls, Walmart, Target, and a few corner stores/mom and pops shops. But when everyone is buying up supplies, I can't just say the store is round the corner, if I need water I will just buy it when I am thirsty. I would be able to walk to the store, but there would be nothing to buy.

People also do it for financial reasons. I know some college kids buy carts of stuff to last months. Financial aid comes twice a year. gotta make sure you are not starving mid semester
Thank you for this. There are times, when even if an area has "walkability" there is a need for a car. That is the point that I was trying to make in my posts...
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The City
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Thank you for this. There are times, when even if an area has "walkability" there is a need for a car. That is the point that I was trying to make in my posts...

Just because you live in a walkable area doesnt mean you cant have a car. I have one but never use unless leaving the area
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Thank you for this. There are times, when even if an area has "walkability" there is a need for a car. That is the point that I was trying to make in my posts...
This obviously varies person to person. Some people could live car-free in a city like Phoenix or Fort Worth, and others would have a hard time living car free in a city like Boston or Philadelphia. It all depends on the priorities of the individual.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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Just because you live in a walkable area doesnt mean you cant have a car. I have one but never use unless leaving the area
thank you. Exactly. The use of a car in a walkable area isn't obsolete. Frankly, I prefer having multiple options: the use of the car, my feet, and mass transit.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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This obviously varies person to person. Some people could live car-free in a city like Phoenix or Fort Worth, and others would have a hard time living car free in a city like Boston or Philadelphia. It all depends on the priorities of the individual.
and again, the characteristic of a city/metro area.....
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I think there are some misconceptions about walkability and public transportation that should be addressed and... Hey! Wouldn't you know it? This is the thread to do just that!

Have you ever looked at Get Your Walk Score - A Walkability Score For Any Address?
That sites a riot! I can't say how accurate it is for larger areas or neighborhoods, but for my small town it isn't even close to accurate. If they can't even get a small town right I question their ability to get a dense area with lots of businesses right. For me they have an antique shop as a grocery store (as well as an ice cream shop as another grocery store), 2 gas stations as shopping, and have the same building in two totally different locations (one on each side of town). Schools are not even close to their real locations either. One restaurant they have listed in town is actually a couple of towns away and over 20 miles from where they have it on the map.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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That sites a riot! I can't say how accurate it is for larger areas or neighborhoods, but for my small town it isn't even close to accurate. If they can't even get a small town right I question their ability to get a dense area with lots of businesses right. For me they have an antique shop as a grocery store (as well as an ice cream shop as another grocery store), 2 gas stations as shopping, and have the same building in two totally different locations (one on each side of town). Schools are not even close to their real locations either. One restaurant they have listed in town is actually a couple of towns away and over 20 miles from where they have it on the map.
What is your walk score? 40? I think walkscore is only accurate and useful if you actually live in a walkable neighborhood. If your score is 40 but you think it deserves a 50 or vice versa, it really doesn't matter because the fact is the neighborhood is not walkable.

It has been very accurate and helpful for me in LA and Boston. I think it is a better tool for those that live in a big city.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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and again, the characteristic of a city/metro area.....
Not sure what you mean by this.
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