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Old 08-05-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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Sasquatch hunter Suzanne Ferencak said the two-minute audio of distant howling was a first for her.

An Ohio woman claims that Sasquatch has returned to the woods near her home, based on an audio recording that she herself made of what she heard.

Suzanne Ferencak shared with Mansfield News Journal last week that this is the first time she’s ever recorded howling in her nearly decade-long tenure as a Bigfoot hunter.

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/oh...0a4d030f1ef3ed
She made her own recording? As in she recorded her own voice mimicking what she claims to have heard? Or she recorded the sounds outdoors?
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Old 08-05-2022, 03:32 PM
 
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"Two thousand years from now, will some people be claiming that there must have once been superhumans who could fly and shoot lasers out their eyes and liked to dress in tights and wear capes, because there were just so many stories about them from the 20th and 21st centuries?"

Your example is obviously fiction created for entertainment in our society. Whereas there are plenty of native Americans speaking of the forest hairy man who roam the vast forests. Not just fantastic stories to entertain the kids, but observations from people who lived on this land and know it intimately.

You are oversimplifying "legends and folklore".

Just like how you think that BF enthusiasts that claim "Bigfoot obviously is real" is silly and tunnel visioned. So are skeptics that announce that BF obviously doesn't exist. Both are silly and at the end of the day just opinions.

If Jane Goodall can publicly say that she is intrigued by all the native people's belief in the various versions of Bigfoot, and state that it's possible, that to me carries much more weight than just a blanket statement from an average die hard skeptic.
I think you would be amazed at how many of those customs of Native Americans are fairly recent and are made uo/done for entertainment purposes. I lived with and traveled with several Natives for years. They straight up told me most of the ceramonies they do is to bring in cash from tourists and are completely made up. Many tribes/places do it around the world for the tourists.
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Barring an insurmountable cataclysm...
History is full of 'em.


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"Two thousand years from now, will some people be claiming that there must have once been superhumans who could fly and shoot lasers out their eyes and liked to dress in tights and wear capes, because there were just so many stories about them from the 20th and 21st centuries?"

Your example is obviously fiction created for entertainment in our society. Whereas there are plenty of native Americans speaking of the forest hairy man who roam the vast forests. Not just fantastic stories to entertain the kids, but observations from people who lived on this land and know it intimately.

You are oversimplifying "legends and folklore".
No. You are over-simplifying fiction --- and assuming that the Greeks and Sumerians and Navajo and Chinese equated all of their myths and folktales with fact.

Stories about Superman and Batman and Spider-Man are much more than just "fiction created for entertainment." The USA has made two great contributions to world mythology: the Western and the super hero. Like all myths, they can sometimes be trite and shallow, but the best examples can also be deeply profound. There is no such thing as "mere" entertainment. We find such stories entertaining because there is something deeply human and instructive about them.

And we have no reason to believe that ancient peoples did very much the same thing.


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Just like how you think that BF enthusiasts that claim "Bigfoot obviously is real" is silly and tunnel visioned.
No. I just think there is NO conclusive evidence pointing toward the Big Guy's existence.


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So are skeptics that announce that BF obviously doesn't exist. Both are silly and at the end of the day just opinions.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but no one is entitled to their own facts. The fact is that there is not a single shred of conclusive evidence that Bigfoot exists, and centuries of knowledge conclude that Bigfoot cannot be part of the natural eco-system. There just aren't enough calories in his supposed environment to keep him alive. If Bigfoot does exist, then the supernatural is the most likely explanation. Either that, or he is a pet of the aliens that they have to let out of the flying saucer every now and then to relieve himself.
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Old 08-05-2022, 07:27 PM
 
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History is full of 'em.
Amazingly, ruins and records, from wall writings to monuments, in various states of preservation (and decay) remain. My point, er, stands.
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Old 08-05-2022, 08:22 PM
 
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Amazingly, ruins and records, from wall writings to monuments, in various states of preservation (and decay) remain. My point, er, stands.
Human history --- and "history" is "the written word" --- is surprisingly sparse and even contradictory until about 1,000 years ago. Archaeology has helped to fill in some of the gaps, but in the sum total of the existence of human society, we have far more gaps than fills.

Will records of our civilization survive? Who knows? It'll only take one full-scale nuclear war to drive all of humanity (which will be a fraction of what it is now) back to the Stone Age. We also face the risk of pandemics, asteroids, massive solar flares, climate change, and the upcoming primate revolution where the monkeys finally rise up and take over.

https://www.livescience.com/monkey-g...er-killed.html

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/asia/...hnk/index.html
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Old 08-06-2022, 11:42 AM
 
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That's why I said "insurmountable."

Contrary to popular belief, a nuclear war won't necessarily wipe out a global digital array, and a pandemic certainly won't. I don't need to post links to verify either.
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Old 08-11-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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Amazingly, ruins and records, from wall writings to monuments, in various states of preservation (and decay) remain. My point, er, stands.
Until the first major asteroid hits. Nothing stands after that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljsHQgJx9k
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Old 08-12-2022, 04:28 PM
 
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With the exception of the Tunguska Event, it has been many millions of years since the Earth has sustained an asteroid impact of that magnitude.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...s-history.html
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Old 08-27-2022, 08:02 PM
 
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Throughout forest and natural parks there are bigfoot creatures and dogmen. Many sighting have been mentioned.. The National Park Service knows and is covering it up.
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