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Old 11-30-2022, 08:59 PM
 
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Electric bills will be higher due to Abbott's incompetence, but if it's only like 50c a month, I won't notice it. How much will it take to notice it?
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:06 AM
 
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The background being the storm was the worst cold blast in many decades - maybe since 1899. The smart play is to hedge. Spending $5-7 billion to harden an aging system, an aging system that will be mostly phased out by PV solar over the next couple of decades, would be dumb.


Per maximum societal advantage that $5-7 billion should be spent on net new PV solar, batteries and other storage means. Some should be spent on new natural gas generation as well.
I have experienced 3 of such cold snaps in my 75 years in Texas.

The morning paper informs me that Lt Gov. Dan Patrick says it could happen again.
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Old 12-01-2022, 03:09 PM
 
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I have experienced 3 of such cold snaps in my 75 years in Texas.

The morning paper informs me that Lt Gov. Dan Patrick says it could happen again.
1. No you haven't.

2. Of course it could happen again.
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Old 12-01-2022, 03:25 PM
 
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After seeing your guy get smoked by nearly 11 pts. using grid-shaming as a key political cudgel I'd think you guys would move along. The fact is very few people outside finger pointing democrats buy the pitch.
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Old 12-01-2022, 09:35 PM
 
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Sure,
Maybe we should also stop finger pointing about inflation and unemployment
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Old 12-01-2022, 10:44 PM
 
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1. No you haven't.

2. Of course it could happen again.
On December 25, 1983, the temperature in Houston was 13. The city went almost 3 days without going above freezing. https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/...-1983#december

On December 23, 1989, the low in Houston was 9, and that was during another long period of sub freezing temperatures. https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/...-1989#december

Both of those were colder that Uri, yet the grid didn't fail.
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Old 12-02-2022, 06:07 AM
 
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1. No you haven't.

2. Of course it could happen again.


Once when I was kid, I can't remember the year

1960 Beaumont got very cold for several days after 10 inches of snow. I'm not gonna dig through the photos to find my 6 month old daughter sitting on the picnic table in a foot of snow.

1983 that same daughter and now a son were living in our condo Austin. We were in St Louis. It got so cold many pipes in Austin froze. We had reservations at a hotel in Austin for Christmas through New Years. We were happy they could find us another place. It froze in the valley. The citrus crop was gone. IIRC that's when Minute Maid moved to Belize. That freeze also got many of the palm trees in Galveston.

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Old 12-02-2022, 06:34 AM
 
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The background being the storm was the worst cold blast in many decades - maybe since 1899. The smart play is to hedge. Spending $5-7 billion to harden an aging system, an aging system that will be mostly phased out by PV solar over the next couple of decades, would be dumb.


Per maximum societal advantage that $5-7 billion should be spent on net new PV solar, batteries and other storage means. Some should be spent on new natural gas generation as well.
Why wait a couple of decades? do you know how much that messed cost?

Winter Storm Uri cost Texas between $80 and $130 billion, report shows

Texas' catastrophic February winter storm left over 200 people dead and millions without power for days on end, and a new report from the state comptroller's office attempts to shed light on the economic repercussions of the blackouts. According to a statement released by Texas Comptroller Glen Hegar Tuesday, the financial fallout caused by Winter Storm Uri likely falls in the range of $80 billion to $130 billion —an estimation of direct and indirect losses made by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas based on "a result of power loss, physical infrastructure damage and forgone economic opportunities."
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Old 12-02-2022, 06:40 AM
 
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Why wait a couple of decades? do you know how much that messed cost?

Winter Storm Uri cost Texas between $80 and $130 billion, report shows

Texas' catastrophic February winter storm left over 200 people dead and millions without power for days on end, and a new report from the state comptroller's office attempts to shed light on the economic repercussions of the blackouts. According to a statement released by Texas Comptroller Glen Hegar Tuesday, the financial fallout caused by Winter Storm Uri likely falls in the range of $80 billion to $130 billion —an estimation of direct and indirect losses made by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas based on "a result of power loss, physical infrastructure damage and forgone economic opportunities."


Some who complain about the cost to fix a problem never consider the cost of doing nothing.

It would be interesting to know how much Uri raised home insurance rates in Texas.
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Old 12-02-2022, 07:25 AM
 
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Sure,
Maybe we should also stop finger pointing about inflation and unemployment
Not gonna happen with the likes of them. Only intelligent people with an understanding of economics understand that the causes of unemployment, inflation, gas prices, etc. do not rest singly with whoever is president at the time. Econ 101 would have taught anyone that. He/she/they does not know
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