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Probably last for a while. Live about 100 miles from a “big city” of about 50,000 people. Less than 6 people, on average, per square mile. Plenty of water, wood, deer everywhere, plenty of catfish. Have a generator, enough gas for a few days. But it gets brutally cold here, roads need to be plowed, or you are not going anywhere. I’m relatively healthy for a 62 year old. But I’m on the downhill side of life. So anything can happen.
depends on the medical condition, not all conditions are terminal if cut off from medicines.
If cut off from power and my CPAP machine is daid, so be I in short order.
(My grandfather passed away when he was 56, probably due to obstructive sleep apnea, which aggravated his heart. I reached 67, which surprised me! Probably good for another 15-20 years, as long as the 120 VAC doesn't crap out.)
FWIW - for all those who think they'll survive on hunting and gathering, here's a dash of cold water. During the great depression (1929-39), rural areas were over hunted to the point it took decades for wildlife populations to recover.
There's a reason why the Dept. of Interior computed that a typical Indian required 10 square miles to support himself, and often had to keep migrating to new hunting grounds. And fought incessantly to keep neighboring tribes from poaching their lands. . . to do otherwise was to risk starvation.
(Though the revisionists hate to admit it, those "evil" Europeans with "advanced" agriculture, were responsible for the population boom, by replacing the indigenous hunter-gatherers with farmers. There are more descendants of Indians alive today, than could have been supported if the nation remained "wilderness.")
I have awful iodine allergy. No radiographic dyes with iodine contrast for me. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that iodine is most helpful for younger people. It's not necessary for boomers.
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Due to medical conditions, if cut off from re-supply, the prognosis is terminal.
Me too.
There's access to antibiotics as well. Pioneers died from infected injures from chopping wood & other simple activities.
Our antibiotics are produced in China. Don't you think the US government's first defense against Russia/China alliance would be to bring back drug production to the USA? At least for our soldiers in conflict with them? What do you think??? A no-brainer???
FWIW - for all those who think they'll survive on hunting and gathering, here's a dash of cold water. During the great depression (1929-39), rural areas were over hunted to the point it took decades for wildlife populations to recover.
There's a reason why the Dept. of Interior computed that a typical Indian required 10 square miles to support himself, and often had to keep migrating to new hunting grounds. And fought incessantly to keep neighboring tribes from poaching their lands. . . to do otherwise was to risk starvation.
(Though the revisionists hate to admit it, those "evil" Europeans with "advanced" agriculture, were responsible for the population boom, by replacing the indigenous hunter-gatherers with farmers. There are more descendants of Indians alive today, than could have been supported if the nation remained "wilderness.")
I live on 107 acres with more wood than I'll ever need and a beautiful trout stream with waterfalls. My house was built in 1885 and I'm the third owner. People tend to stay here til they die. My wife passed five years ago and we were married 53 years. I'm the fourth generation to be married over 50 years. My sons are about half way. We barter. I have a 4WD tractor with several attachments. I help people plan where they will build their camp. Tre are MANY factors to prevent problems. Where the sun comes up changes 46 degrees in Maine. The sun rises as far north as it ever will on June 21. It rises 46 degrees south of that on December 21. Water runs down hill. Don't build any building in the bottom of a small valley. You will have flooding and drainage forever. Want shade in the summer? Don't cut the trees that provide shade where you want your camp. Consider views when the leaves are off.
City people don't naturally think of these things. International paper said you can take a third of a cord per acre per year from the woods and never diminish the resource. That's because the forest grows a third of a cord per acre. Don't cut the best wood for firewood. It's going to be ashes. Let the straight trees grow. Use your ashes for fertilizer. I don't need 107 acres and I could sell a few 10 acre lots. Land is a great investment. If you manage the land it will grow in value quickly.
You could write a book on this topic. For Mainers it's common sense. If you are new to rural Maine, get some advice before you create unanticipated problems for yourself.
My wife got us involved with a group that has meetings about how to handle large emergencies.
We discuss food/water storage, handling emergency situations and have classes on first aid.
It’s a local group made up of some of our neighbors in a rural community.
I’m actually surprised that this subject interested my wife.
Me? I do like the idea of being prepared and being able to self sustainable for a long period.
I do feel that this is important because supplies will not be coming for a long while in a big emergency where we live.
However that being said,
I’m just not totally on board and I am not drinking their Cool Aid.
These people always mention the 50’ tall tsunami that will devastate our area.
This is brought up near every meeting and sometimes they even talk about mass burials.
Ewe ewe ewe just frickin ewe.
Why even talk about that when there are numerous tractors in the group?
I like and appreciate a decent portion of what we discuss it’s just sometimes they seem to go off the deep end.
I have had first responder training since I was a Boy Scout and been in training groups a good half dozen times in my life.
Recently I had additional first aid training for work and found out that a defibrillator with easy to follow voice instructions cost only $460 on Amazon.
I mentioned to the group that I’m thinking of buying one and they all said it cost too much and basically thought I was a nut.
When I asked what was more likely to happen one of us having a heart attack or a big emergency.
Believe it or not I heard it won’t help when that 50’ wave comes in.
So I’m kinda getting to feel like Groucho Marx.
You know, any club that wants me as a member just ain’t worth joining or something like that.
My wife got us involved with a group that has meetings about how to handle large emergencies.
However that being said, I’m just not totally on board and I am not drinking their Cool Aid.
These people always mention the 50’ tall tsunami that will devastate our area.
This is brought up near every meeting and sometimes they even talk about mass burials.
It aid training for work and found out that a defibrillator with easy to follow voice instructions cost only $460 on Amazon.
I think a defibrillator would be a great thing! Does the Red Cross have training on how to use it? It's definitely worth it especially for old guys like my husband.
Which state had the 50' tall tsunami? I would think you probably get more of a warning with tsunamis now than with tornados?
The Japan earthquake and tsunami of 2011:
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Japan's scientists had forecast a smaller earthquake would strike the northern region of Honshu, the country's main island. Nor did they expect such a large tsunami. But there had been hints of the disaster to come. The areas flooded in 2011 closely matched those of a tsunami that hit Sendai in A.D. 869. In the decade before the 2011 Tohoku earthquake, a handful of Japanese geologists had begun to recognize that a large earthquake and tsunami had struck the northern Honshu region in that year. However, their warnings went unheeded by officials responsible for the country's earthquake hazard assessments, Live Science previously reported. Now, tsunami experts from around the world have been asked to assess the history of past tsunamis in Japan, to better predict the country's future earthquake risk.
"For big earthquakes, the tsunami is going to be the big destructive factor," said Vasily Titov, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Center for Tsunami Research in Seattle, Washington told Live Science. "But if the nation is prepared, warning and education definitely saves lives. Compare the human lives lost in Sumatra and Japan. It's about 10 times less."
What I got from this website was don't listen to the government! Assume the very worse! It's like Hurricane Katrine when the government swore the levees would hold or when we were told the 9/11 toxic air was okay! Even the first projections of Hurricane Sandy were wrong.
Would the focus be better spent on setting up evacuation routes and car pools rather than mass burials? Some times people caught up emotionally in what could go wrong, it's addictive like porn.
Of course, we can worry about a repeat of "A Deadly Tsunami Of Molasses In Boston's North End" which seems like an unusually cruel way to die.
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On Jan. 15, 1919, a tank of molasses burst, releasing a thick, sugary tsunami down the streets of Boston's North End. This "Great Molasses Flood" killed 21 people, injured 150, and had effects far beyond the Boston waterfront.
The tank was used to store molasses, which came up on ships from the Caribbean, until it could be transported to a nearby distillery where it was expected to become rum in the last days before Prohibition. Though only a few years old at the time of the flood, the tank showed signs of instability.
When the tank burst, it unleashed a 30-foot-high wave of 2.3 million gallons of molasses that moved 35 mph down Commercial Street. The neighborhood was destroyed, coated in a thick, sticky layer of molasses.
On a scale from 0 to 10, zero being not prepared at all. Ten being totally self-sufficient for you and your household for one year. Where do you fall on the scale? Elaborate if you wish.
There is no amount of preparation that will be enough for anyone planning to STAY in North America. How much good was it to dig a bunker in your backyard if you lived in Moscow in 1915? Or if you were a Jew living in Europe in 1931? We're in for some hellish times this century most likely. And no matter what happens, we're probably going to have a revolution or another civil war and come out of it all with a different form of government. America as we knew it is in the sunset years. I'm convinced there is nothing on the horizon showing any promise of renewal or redeemption.
The best solution is the one that millions of people have taken over the centuries past - including those who came here when it was far and away worth the risk and trouble.
Emigrate. Preferably to the South Seas area.
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