Double stabbing in Washington Park (Providence: neighborhood, calculation, living in)
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^^^Just more pretty colors on a map, and undocumented at that. Compare and contrast actual crime data with high crime cities. I've given you a start to your "research". Produce actual, meaningful results. Otherwise, you're just self pleasuring again.
PLEASE don't start up with this "oh well we're not Baltimore or Detroit" nonsense. Of course it isn't, but Providence has some serious issues with crime right now and Washington Park is certainly no exception. Your dismissive attitude will not make the problem go away.
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Originally Posted by massnative71
PLEASE don't start up with this "oh well we're not Baltimore or Detroit" nonsense. Of course it isn't, but Providence has some serious issues with crime right now and Washington Park is certainly no exception. Your dismissive attitude will not make the problem go away.
You're deflecting again because you are incapable of a numbers-based analysis. Not only do you make ridiculous claims that "the neighborhood is not safe", you go "epic stupid" and make preposterous claims like it is a war zone.
Show it with numbers. This is city-data.com, a site that provides such data. If you're going to repeatedly make outlandish claims, attempt to back them up. Right now, you've got a Gentleman's D-. And who knows, you might learn something.
Compare and contrast actual crime data with high crime cities.
This is a weak argument designed to downplay the seriousness of the violent crime that plagues the troubled Washington Park neighborhood in South Providence. It is also financially motivated.
To paraphrase an astute former member: "one need not be 450 lbs to be considered obese".
Here is a list of shooting incidents going back to last April in the Washington Park neighborhood (possible I missed one or two). To give you some badly needed perspective, this is all within a neighborhood of like 2 square miles and population of 10K people. Not a "safe" neighborhood here by any means.
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So there you have it folks. He can't run the numbers to justify his "unsafe" label. He doesn't have the basic math skills to do it. And the facts don't fit his peculiar narrative.
He doesn't know Rhode Island beyond what he reads in this forum, what he reads in the news, sees on google street view, and experienced during a couple of visits to the city to eat wieners forever ago. He thinks this qualifies him as an expert. Do you?
Any of us who do actually live here, who speak up to say a neighborhood like Washington Park is reasonably safe to live, work, or visit, get dismissed as having some sort of financial interest. Full disclosure: I am a city resident and taxpayer in Providence (I may or may not live in Washington Park) and have an interest in seeing the entire city thrive. I also know people who live in Washington Park, who I consider friends. Calling that a disqualifying financial interest is a bit of a stretch. Ask yourselves, what is his interest?
Crime rates throughout the city are generally low compared with our peers nationwide. The data is right here on city-data.com and you can easily compare crime rates in Providence with other cities. The site's data typically lags the present by a year or two, and won't catch the crime uptick that happened during the pandemic, so if somehow our crime became better or worse than a comparison city you would not catch that.
BTW, Washington Park is its own distinct neighborhood with its own neighborhood association (Washington Park Neighborhood Association), and different from South Providence and the South Providence Neighborhood Association (which represents Upper & Lower South Providence). Those designations are used by the people who live in the city, by the politicians who represent them, and the City Planning Department. But that doesn't fit his narrative, which lumps all of the South Side into some crime buff fantasy gangland out of the movies.
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Originally Posted by massnative71
This is a weak argument designed to downplay the seriousness of the violent crime that plagues the troubled Washington Park neighborhood in South Providence. It is also financially motivated.
To paraphrase an astute former member: "one need not be 450 lbs to be considered obese".
Here is a list of shooting incidents going back to last April in the Washington Park neighborhood (possible I missed one or two). To give you some badly needed perspective, this is all within a neighborhood of like 2 square miles and population of 10K people. Not a "safe" neighborhood here by any means.
So there you have it folks. He can't run the numbers to justify his "unsafe" label. He doesn't have the basic math skills to do it. And the facts don't fit his peculiar narrative.
He doesn't know Rhode Island beyond what he reads in this forum, what he reads in the news, sees on google street view, and experienced during a couple of visits to the city to eat wieners forever ago. He thinks this qualifies him as an expert. Do you?
Any of us who do actually live here, who speak up to say a neighborhood like Washington Park is reasonably safe to live, work, or visit, get dismissed as having some sort of financial interest. Full disclosure: I am a city resident and taxpayer in Providence (I may or may not live in Washington Park) and have an interest in seeing the entire city thrive. I also know people who live in Washington Park, who I consider friends. Calling that a disqualifying financial interest is a bit of a stretch. Ask yourselves, what is his interest?
Crime rates throughout the city are generally low compared with our peers nationwide. The data is right here on city-data.com and you can easily compare crime rates in Providence with other cities. The site's data typically lags the present by a year or two, and won't catch the crime uptick that happened during the pandemic, so if somehow our crime became better or worse than a comparison city you would not catch that.
BTW, Washington Park is its own distinct neighborhood with its own neighborhood association (Washington Park Neighborhood Association), and different from South Providence and the South Providence Neighborhood Association (which represents Upper & Lower South Providence). Those designations are used by the people who live in the city, by the politicians who represent them, and the City Planning Department. But that doesn't fit his narrative, which lumps all of the South Side into some crime buff fantasy gangland out of the movies.
Bro, you really need to put your keyboard down because every stroke you make backs yourself even further into the corner.
So you want to talk about numbers? I compared the homicide rate in Washington Park with the overall city of Providence and peer cities, as well as the national and RI/MA state averages. In addition, I threw in some Boston hoods for comparison purposes. For 2021, Washington Park had 2 murders which out of 10K people gives it a homicide rate of 20 per 100K (in 2020 it had 3 murders with a rate of 30/100K).
As for your financial interest, it can't get any more obvious dude and your agenda from day one has been crystal clear. There is absolutely zero coincidence that with all the crime from throughout the state discussed in this forum, it "only" seems to be an issue (for you and another poster) if it involves South Providence. It's like, ANY unflattering news about the area you both attempt to silence, gaslight and bully those who speak up...out of the room. You (by your own admission) have even gone to great lengths to get the "South Providence" definition removed from Wikipedia, because of its negative association and impact on your real estate values. More recently, you screamed so loud that the Providence Police decided to stop publishing precise addresses in the crime log (doing a huge disservice to city residents/neighbors and in the name of transparency). All desperate and pathetic moves.
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No work shown, no credit. Sorry, but we can't trust that you have basic math skills. And, try comparisons nationwide. Very safe New England isn't a nationwide comparison.
No idea what you are talking about with regard to wikipedia nor the Providence Police. You should put down the crack pipe. I guess your in depth research into the Providence Drug Trade is showing.
And incidentally, did it ever occur to you that I only come to this moribund forum sporadically? If one were to counter every imbecilic bullying post of yours, they'd have no time for anything else.
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Originally Posted by massnative71
Bro, you really need to put your keyboard down because every stroke you make backs yourself even further into the corner.
So you want to talk about numbers? I compared the homicide rate in Washington Park with the overall city of Providence and peer cities, as well as the national and RI/MA state averages. In addition, I threw in some Boston hoods for comparison purposes. For 2021, Washington Park had 2 murders which out of 10K people gives it a homicide rate of 20 per 100K (in 2020 it had 3 murders with a rate of 30/100K).
As for your financial interest, it can't get any more obvious dude and your agenda from day one has been crystal clear. There is absolutely zero coincidence that with all the crime from throughout the state discussed in this forum, it "only" seems to be an issue (for you and another poster) if it involves South Providence. It's like, ANY unflattering news about the area you both attempt to silence, gaslight and bully those who speak up...out of the room. You (by your own admission) have even gone to great lengths to get the "South Providence" definition removed from Wikipedia, because of its negative association and impact on your real estate values. More recently, you screamed so loud that the Providence Police decided to stop publishing precise addresses in the crime log (doing a huge disservice to city residents/neighbors and in the name of transparency). All desperate and pathetic moves.
So there you have it folks. He can't run the numbers to justify his "unsafe" label. He doesn't have the basic math skills to do it. And the facts don't fit his peculiar narrative.
He doesn't know Rhode Island beyond what he reads in this forum, what he reads in the news, sees on google street view, and experienced during a couple of visits to the city to eat wieners forever ago. He thinks this qualifies him as an expert. Do you?
Any of us who do actually live here, who speak up to say a neighborhood like Washington Park is reasonably safe to live, work, or visit, get dismissed as having some sort of financial interest. Full disclosure: I am a city resident and taxpayer in Providence (I may or may not live in Washington Park) and have an interest in seeing the entire city thrive. I also know people who live in Washington Park, who I consider friends. Calling that a disqualifying financial interest is a bit of a stretch. Ask yourselves, what is his interest?
Crime rates throughout the city are generally low compared with our peers nationwide. The data is right here on city-data.com and you can easily compare crime rates in Providence with other cities. The site's data typically lags the present by a year or two, and won't catch the crime uptick that happened during the pandemic, so if somehow our crime became better or worse than a comparison city you would not catch that.
BTW, Washington Park is its own distinct neighborhood with its own neighborhood association (Washington Park Neighborhood Association), and different from South Providence and the South Providence Neighborhood Association (which represents Upper & Lower South Providence). Those designations are used by the people who live in the city, by the politicians who represent them, and the City Planning Department. But that doesn't fit his narrative, which lumps all of the South Side into some crime buff fantasy gangland out of the movies.
Thanks for occasionally taking the time to put this Maine fellow's Rhode Island Crime Obsession in some kind of local perspective that's understandable to a novice who may stumble on this little forum. He seems to have made this creepy crime stuff his life, so don't hold your breath for him to ever grow tired. He's the RI Forum's version of 2 am cable tv. This type of cheap, low-rent drama makes sure the screen never goes dark.
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