Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Retirement
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-09-2009, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Southwestern Ohio
4,112 posts, read 6,535,687 times
Reputation: 1625

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by forest beekeeper View Post
Or move to an area with a low cost of living.
That's my plan. Also, to become even more self sufficient, grow everything e can.. perhaps go with an alternate heating source. I don't think we can be much more frugal than we already are.

As soon as te kid is out of college and assumes more of her costs(car insurance, life insurance etc.), I will have a better idea of the actualspending we do in a year and will probably re-crunch the numbers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-09-2009, 08:58 AM
 
Location: DC Area, for now
3,517 posts, read 13,278,225 times
Reputation: 2192
Quote:
Originally Posted by texdav View Post
If you thnik 50,000 will suit you ;you still need to realise that it needs to keep up with basic inflation.In ten year that 50,000 may not look so good otherwise.5% per year increase is a pretty safe margin on COL in most cases.
The 1 mil is supposed to keep up with inflation and be able to yield more as inflation makes the actual dollars taken out increase. It is the rule of thumb theory, anyway.

When they talk about the Present Value of a sure thing pension that has cost of living increases built in, they value it at $1 mil per 50k of initial pension benefit in today's dollars. Forest's military pension is valued at this rate and his actual estate is valued with the Present Value of his pension being increased by that amount.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2009, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
37,546 posts, read 61,596,793 times
Reputation: 30526
Quote:
Originally Posted by dramamama6685 View Post
That's my plan. Also, to become even more self sufficient, grow everything e can.. perhaps go with an alternate heating source. I don't think we can be much more frugal than we already are.

As soon as te kid is out of college and assumes more of her costs(car insurance, life insurance etc.), I will have a better idea of the actualspending we do in a year and will probably re-crunch the numbers.
We have been using firewood, peat moss, woodchips and WVO to heat with. [and a bit of propane].

We are fortunate to be in an area where we have lots of firewood, peat moss and woodchips, so these fuels do not cost us anything.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
37,546 posts, read 61,596,793 times
Reputation: 30526
We just got a 5.8% raise.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2009, 12:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
5,821 posts, read 12,655,753 times
Reputation: 4420
Quote:
Originally Posted by forest beekeeper View Post
We just got a 5.8% raise.
Forest, I also work for the govt. I understand that they give you a cola. Last year with the fuel increases and food going up caused the inflation rate to go up drasticaly. This year they talk about deflation. I wonder if they ever took money back after they give it out. If cola was like minus 2% this year do they take it back? Thanks JM
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2009, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
37,546 posts, read 61,596,793 times
Reputation: 30526
Will 'deflation' lower COLA?

I have no idea.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2009, 02:24 PM
 
Location: DC Area, for now
3,517 posts, read 13,278,225 times
Reputation: 2192
Quote:
Originally Posted by forest beekeeper View Post
Will 'deflation' lower COLA?

I have no idea.
They have never done that. Here is a table going back 30 years:
Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA)

There have been years when there was no COLA, but never a negative.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
5,821 posts, read 12,655,753 times
Reputation: 4420
Thanks Forest and Tes. My partners dad is a retired police officer and his cola payments are more than his original pension. His been collecting for 30 years and is 86. Thanks for the chart Tess.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2009, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Southwestern Ohio
4,112 posts, read 6,535,687 times
Reputation: 1625
Quote:
Originally Posted by JERSEY MAN View Post
Thanks Forest and Tes. My partners dad is a retired police officer and his cola payments are more than his original pension. His been collecting for 30 years and is 86. Thanks for the chart Tess.
Neither myself or my DH have ever been at a job where we receive a cola, just get the once a year raise. Unfortunately, DH capped out (at a very low rate)10 years ago next month. Good thing were super frugal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2009, 08:25 AM
 
8,228 posts, read 14,248,566 times
Reputation: 11239
I can't remember the rule of thumb exactly but when applied it says I should have 3 million. Which would mean I can't ever retire because I'll have trouble getting to 300,000.
So I hope that's not true.
What frightens me is that there doesn't seem to be anyway to come up with a number other than oh so much more than you planned.
Things change so much, nothing is fixed. Think your forever healthcare promised in retirement can't be taken away? Oh whoops. Think your pension can't be reduced? Whoops. Think the stock market can't crash and wipe out your 401K? Whoops.
How on earth can you plan?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Retirement

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:21 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top