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Old 02-22-2024, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I had to chuckle at that 509, for me it was back at ages 17-19, then I met my wife and gave it up. Today I have Stage 3 Kidney disease so can only take Tylenol for pain, and of course, at 71 I have pain somewhere most days.
Why do you say "of course" you have pain at 71 on most days? I am sorry that you do, but just for those who might be reading this who are still in their 50's, this is not true for everyone!

Again, I am sincerely sorry for you and for all those who do experience some kind of pain every day.
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Old 02-22-2024, 03:24 PM
 
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Pain management is a worry now for me, as I seem to be resistant to opioids and morphine.
I had serious shoulder surgery years ago, and they tried three different opioids on me and they only made me feel really sick and barely eased the pain.

Then another time I was in a car accident and broke bones and they gave me morphine in the hospital and NADA — doctor was shocked. Finally a STRONG IV anti inflammatory drug did help.
But it made me lose faith that they can keep you out of pain when serious aging problems happen.
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Old 02-22-2024, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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When I was 20 I wanted to smoke marijuana without fear of getting arrested. I had no need for pain-killers.

Now that I am 70 I can smoke all the marijuana I want without fear of getting arrested thanks to my government. But it lost it attraction due to wine.

I cannot however, get pain-killers for my pain.!!!
"due to wine" I'm right with you 509!
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Old 02-22-2024, 05:04 PM
 
Location: moved
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Why do you say "of course" you have pain at 71 on most days? I am sorry that you do, but just for those who might be reading this who are still in their 50's, this is not true for everyone!
Early 50s here, and yes, I have moderate-intensity pain almost daily. Back-pain. Joints. Ligaments. It's a consequence of decades of aggressive weightlifting, sometimes with poor form. Can't be helped. Neither chemicals nor public-policies will affect it.

More broadly, it has been my experience, that neither wise laws, nor foolish ones, have much effect on daily life. Instead what matters is local, situational things.
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Old 02-22-2024, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Have you tried the following over the counter combo?

When my wife told me about this it was hard to believe. But, lo and behold, Google search confirms it.
I wouldn't know personally. No pain here at 65 years old. (yet)

"..Essentially everyone believes that opioids are powerful pain relievers. However, recent studies have shown that taking acetaminophen and ibuprofen together is actually more effective in treating pain..."

https://www.floridahealth.gov/statis...edications.pdf
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Old 02-22-2024, 06:39 PM
 
Location: South Raleigh
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Have you tried the following over the counter combo?

When my wife told me about this it was hard to believe. But, lo and behold, Google search confirms it.
I wouldn't know personally. No pain here at 65 years old. (yet)

"..Essentially everyone believes that opioids are powerful pain relievers. However, recent studies have shown that taking acetaminophen and ibuprofen together is actually more effective in treating pain..."

https://www.floridahealth.gov/statis...edications.pdf
Good for you, no pain at 65. Please do keep it up. Here pain-free and medication-free at 76.

But thanks for the tip on combining acetaminophen and ibuprofen. I understand you can take them together, or alternate between them. That they work differently in the body with no apparent downside.

Regarding "government" and painkillers. Seems like it is the physicians who are the problem, who are now afraid of liability if they over-prescribe opiods. Last time I took something "serious" was during the war ( Vietnam ), when they gave me morphine. Found myself on the ceiling looking down at myself on the hospital bed. That sort of leaves an impression. No more of that stuff for me.
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Old 02-22-2024, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Have you tried the following over the counter combo?

When my wife told me about this it was hard to believe. But, lo and behold, Google search confirms it.
I wouldn't know personally. No pain here at 65 years old. (yet)

"..Essentially everyone believes that opioids are powerful pain relievers. However, recent studies have shown that taking acetaminophen and ibuprofen together is actually more effective in treating pain..."

https://www.floridahealth.gov/statis...edications.pdf
I've known that for years. It sometimes works. If it doesn't, you can throw some aspirin at it. After that, you're in trouble.

After an invasive dental procedure years ago, I started with naproxen. It was the care provider's first choice. That didn't do it, so I took acetaminophen. Then ibuprofen. The pain was getting worse. I had some extra strength arthritis formula aspirin. After downing a shot of scotch, I called my dentist, not the one who had done the work. She said, "Do. not. take. anything. else!" After doing some research and talking to a pharmacist she proscribed codeine. She explained that while it might help with the pain, it would mostly knock me out while everything else in my system caught up. I felt great the next day.
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Old 02-22-2024, 10:29 PM
 
Location: NYC
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When I was 20 I wanted to smoke marijuana without fear of getting arrested. I had no need for pain-killers.

Now that I am 70 I can smoke all the marijuana I want without fear of getting arrested thanks to my government. But it lost it attraction due to wine.

I cannot however, get pain-killers for my pain.!!!

I just bought my first weed edibles last week, although I waited a while in order to buy it at a legal & licensed store & not the "pirate" shops sprouting up all over around here. Who knows what the sourcing is for the illegal stores edibles, etc.... could have some opioid added somewhere along a shadowy supply line.

But I agree that wine, and a weekly couple of G&Ts does me pretty alright, the edibles are still sitting on a pantry shelf waiting.

I'm lucky in that I'm pain-free so far, as long as I watch my diet/liquor intake & don't get the crippling gout I had in my 50's. But I do feel my right knee starting to wear out now on my long walks so that may be painful soon (my MD says keep walking then but take a NSAID for the pain).
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Old 02-23-2024, 09:53 PM
 
Location: TX
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Not true! There are very few doctors who will give you opioid pills anymore. Government cut that off (pretty much) after the opioid crisis. I can get Tramadol because a vertebra was destroyed in my back in an accident. The surgeon couldn't fix it, so he referred me to a pain clinic for severe pain. Had two RFA treatments so far. The pills do NOT take away pain entirely but they help some, so I don't have to kill myself. But normally doctors no longer prescribe any opioid pain pills.
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I suggest you don't try to get pain killers from any establishment doctor, they will only give you opiods, which do a lot less for the pain and take away your cognition if used long term. Wine also does the same, if used to excess. Why doesn't marijuana help relieve your pain now?
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Old 02-26-2024, 12:49 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Not true! There are very few doctors who will give you opioid pills anymore. Government cut that off (pretty much) after the opioid crisis. I can get Tramadol because a vertebra was destroyed in my back in an accident. The surgeon couldn't fix it, so he referred me to a pain clinic for severe pain. Had two RFA treatments so far. The pills do NOT take away pain entirely but they help some, so I don't have to kill myself. But normally doctors no longer prescribe any opioid pain pills.


I agree, doctors don't want to prescribe, especially in NJ. I know many people who have been kicked out of pain management because of the meds they were on were more then the doctor wants to prescribe in the last two or three years. Some have been switched to a med for drug addicts. The only opioid they want to prescribe is a ten MG oxycodone. You're lucky if you can get three pills a day.
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