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Old 06-10-2020, 01:25 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Ha! I used to think that NYC was huge but then, visits to Mexico City and Sao Paulo showed me what 'huge' really means! I've been to six in this list of largest cities and nothing against NYC, it's not in the top 10.
Maybe not but all the places I have lived can't even begin to compare to NYC.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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When I retired close to 10 years ago, I spent a couple of years in the western US, mainly in the National Parks. I am glad I did. There is not much left of what used to be there. A couple of years ago I tried to stop in Zion. Forget parking, it was so crowded I could barely find a spot to pull off the road to hike or look at scenery. I ended up leaving within a couple of hours. There is not much left of wild lands in the lower 48.

Then we can wonder about global warming. That should not be any surprise if we look at the US population and then look at the population increase in the rest of the world. We are not just polluting the environment. We are rapidly depleting the world's resources including minerals, forests, water and farm land.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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When I retired close to 10 years ago, I spent a couple of years in the western US, mainly in the National Parks. I am glad I did. There is not much left of what used to be there. A couple of years ago I tried to stop in Zion. Forget parking, it was so crowded I could barely find a spot to pull off the road to hike or look at scenery. I ended up leaving within a couple of hours. There is not much left of wild lands in the lower 48.

Then we can wonder about global warming. That should not be any surprise if we look at the US population and then look at the population increase in the rest of the world. We are not just polluting the environment. We are rapidly depleting the world's resources including minerals, forests, water and farm land.
Yep, exactly. There was a book written in 1982 by William Catton entitled Overshoot. https://www.amazon.com/Overshoot-Eco.../dp/0252009886

The book told/warned about population growth and our planet's capability to support that ever-growing population. I think we're at "tilt" right about now.

Can't help but wonder if this is one of the causes of Covid virus. Our planet is sick--and now, so are we.

We're all connected...
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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To the OP, try Europe. Not crowded or expensive.
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Old 06-10-2020, 05:19 PM
 
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I know, I got stuck behind a cattle drive the other day. UGH, it took me an extra two minutes to get where I was going.
well I hope your biscuits weren’t burning.
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:13 PM
 
Location: prescott az
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I remember when I was in college that people were "advised" to just replace yourself and your spouse and not have more than 2 kids. Whatever happened to that advice? Nobody listened.
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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We have too many useless people doing useless things, and too many people doing nothing at all except sucking off the people who *are* doing something.

Go CoViD!
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Old 06-10-2020, 07:14 PM
 
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aim going to be real pissed if they make the stop sign in town a 2 way stop!
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Old 06-10-2020, 08:44 PM
 
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I remember when I was in college that people were "advised" to just replace yourself and your spouse and not have more than 2 kids. Whatever happened to that advice? Nobody listened.
Actually Americans have listened quite well. The U.S. birth rate is barely at that replacement rate. What happened in this country is immigration and lots of it. There ARE too many people everywhere- too many people who are well-off (that's us!) using tremendous amounts of resources, and too many people everywhere, in many places living in abject poverty.
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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In my opinion, the root cause of many of society's ills today can be traced to overpopulation. There are too many people on this planet but not enough jobs, food, fresh water or housing or infrastructure to support them all. Millions of people crowded together in urban areas create tension between different groups competing for the same resources.

Employers can afford to pay low wages and cut benefits because there is a glut of unskilled workers who have no other options but to become wage slaves to uncaring corporate behemoths. They reward their top executives and shareholders well while abusing their workers.

Because cities have become overcrowded and expensive to live in (and often unsafe), people have to move to increasingly distant suburbs to afford a decent life for their families, and long commutes have become the norm. All those cars on the road are polluting our air and contributing to climate change, not to mention robbing people of time they could be spending with their families.

Free, universal birth control and easy access to abortion would help ease the problem, but it will never happen due to long-entrenched religious beliefs that may have made sense thousands of years ago when the human race needed to procreate in order to survive, but make no sense today. We've succeeded too well in propagating the species. It's come to the point where we are fouling our own nest and are well on the road to breeding the human race into extinction, but no one wants to acknowledge the elephant in the room.
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