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again what is the source for this?
because the blatant cloying bias reads like something straight off of, well, any number of hate sites.
i gotta wonder what is the purpose of the opening post and its references to "real Christians" and "true Christianity"
I am sorry if I upset you. My sources were from my AP US history class years ago, visiting Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, the PBS Documentary on Ford that opens up with the Brazil rubber plantation, and a podcast on him from the Dollop.
Is there anything I got wrong? You are free to add in more, I am not a biographer and don't know it all for sure.
I was saying that Ford said Catholicism was not true Christianity...I do NOT agree with that statement. I was stating what he did and did not do, I was not endorsing his positions exactly....especially that one among others.
I just thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss a controversial figure who did many good things and many bad things and see what we thought based on different religious views, etc... It was a dumb idea on my part...I should have made something based on the political forum or not made a topic at all. Sorry again.
I am sorry if I upset you. My sources were from my AP US history class years ago, visiting Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, the PBS Documentary on Ford that opens up with the Brazil rubber plantation, and a podcast on him from the Dollop.
Is there anything I got wrong? You are free to add in more, I am not a biographer and don't know it all for sure.
I was saying that Ford said Catholicism was not true Christianity...I do NOT agree with that statement. I was stating what he did and did not do, I was not endorsing his positions exactly....especially that one among others.
I just thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss a controversial figure who did many good things and many bad things and see what we thought based on different religious views, etc... It was a dumb idea on my part...I should have made something based on the political forum or not made a topic at all. Sorry again.
Please do not apologize for your post you are free to post what you want. You are one of the more honest, thoughtful, respectful posters on this forum, and had I the free time this weekend, I would have enjoyed learning something about a famous man I know little about.
Some religious and spiritual posters need to attack anyone that post anything that is negative about religion, even if it is the truth; and some posters would prefer to take text out of context to attack a straw man than address the actual post. I usually ignore them, they would rather live in their negativity than learn something new.
I am sorry if I upset you. My sources were from my AP US history class years ago, visiting Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, the PBS Documentary on Ford that opens up with the Brazil rubber plantation, and a podcast on him from the Dollop.
Is there anything I got wrong? You are free to add in more, I am not a biographer and don't know it all for sure.
I was saying that Ford said Catholicism was not true Christianity...I do NOT agree with that statement. I was stating what he did and did not do, I was not endorsing his positions exactly....especially that one among others.
I just thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss a controversial figure who did many good things and many bad things and see what we thought based on different religious views, etc... It was a dumb idea on my part...I should have made something based on the political forum or not made a topic at all. Sorry again.
You have nothing to apologize for. You started a thread in the Religion and Spirituality forum to discuss Henry Ford's views as they relate to Religion or Spirituality. Obviously, he had controversial views about Catholicism and Judaism. That makes it relevant to this forum.
Speculating about the motives behind the Original Posting is entirely unnecessary and reflects poorly on the person speculating.
QB, it was not a dumb idea. As I said, Ford's ideas about Catholicism and Judaism make it entirely relevant. What was dumb was all the posts that had no relevance to Religion or Spirituality. Personal note: Please don't post in the politics forum. You won't be treated well there.
Yesterday, we were considering closing this thread because there were so many posts unrelated to Religion or Spirituality. The thread might have worked in the History forum or in Great Debates, but we felt that the way the Opening Post was worded, and the relevant replies that DO relate to R&S made in a poor candidate for relocation.
Now we'll finish with a moderator note: Since this is in the Religion and Spirituality forum, keep your replies confined to religion or spirituality. Ford's attitudes about other things are irrelevant in this forum.
Now we'll finish with a moderator note: Since this is in the Religion and Spirituality forum, keep your replies confined to religion or spirituality. Ford's attitudes about other things are irrelevant in this forum.
Thank you moderators for the pertinent reminder. Much appreciated.
When someone is a Nazi, really there is nothing they can do to compensate for such evil. He is still a hero among Neo-Nazis. I don't find anything that he does fascinating or admirable.
I am "spiritual" not "religious". Other than his hatred for Jews and Catholics, how was Ford religious? I can't think of a religion with those values.
When someone is a Nazi, really there is nothing they can do to compensate for such evil. He is still a hero among Neo-Nazis. I don't find anything that he does fascinating or admirable.
I am "spiritual" not "religious". Other than his hatred for Jews and Catholics, how was Ford religious? I can't think of a religion with those values.
Was he an active member of a church?
He was at least nominally Episcopalian, but most historians don't regard him as devout, despite a story that he walked 4 miles to an Episcopal church each Sunday as a young man of 20.
I tend to regard Ford as the Elon Musk of his era ... he built an empire and then got full of himself and thought he knew best how to solve all the world's problems.
--Bob
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