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They are all questionable at best. Moses in particular, and the whole Exodus, has no archeological attestation at all. Moses was an invented culture hero. Paul? No one speaks of him prior to Marcion, in the mid 2nd century. And Marcion is now considered a heretic.
Sorry, thrill, I thought - This guy thinks about Jesus more than Christians do! LOL
I'm no therapist - but it does make me wonder "Why?". Just sayin...not asking you to answer that.
Suppose I claim to have personally experienced a visitation of Mickey Mouse? How would you explain that? I mean, everyone knows that someone claiming they experienced something must mean it's veridical.
Sorry, thrill, I thought - This guy thinks about Jesus more than Christians do! LOL
I'm no therapist - but it does make me wonder "Why?". Just sayin...not asking you to answer that.
I'd be happy to answer, Miss Hepburn. The Christians have been lying to people about Jesus since he was invented. And they have fooled billions and billions of people over the millennia to believe he was real when in fact even their own church hierarchy has been in on the scam since at least the 13th century, Look at what Pope Boniface VIII said about Jesus:
“The sums of money which the fable of Christ has produced the priests are incalculable.” [SIZE=2](c.1290)[/SIZE]
In 1514, Pope Leo X, at a lavish Good Friday banquet, in the Vatican, in the company of seven intimates, Leo X famously stated the following as he raised his toast glass to the air: [1]
“How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors.”
The pope's pronouncement, since characterized as the “most infamous and damaging statement about Christianity in the history of the Church”, was recorded in the diaries and records of both Pietro Cardinal Bembo (Letters and Comments on Pope Leo X, 1842 reprint) and Paolo Cardinal Giovio (De Vita Leonis Decimi..., op. cit.), two associates who were witnesses to it.
Now if the Popes are in on the Jesus fable, yet they're telling the common folks Jesus was real, doesn't that bother you in the least? And if it bothered you wouldn't you want to try to get the truth out to the hapless people being fed these lies when the Church's inner hierarchy has been in the scam from the start?
That's why I make these threads. I cannot stand the hypocrisy of the church leaders, most of whom are probably closet atheists anyway and are in the Christian racket solely for the job security.
That's why I make these threads. I cannot stand the hypocrisy of the church leaders, most of whom are probably closet atheists anyway and are in the Christian racket solely for the job security.
Hi, thrill
I left the Catholic Church after finding out so many terrible things.
You must care more about people than I do...cuz that was plenty for me.
Carry on.
...first of all everyone is on their own path and the sooner people understand that and respect it, the sooner these juvenile pizzing contests over who has the right answer will cease...i tend to doubt it though...
...thrill you are very hostile to the Chistians out here by the words you use and the inferences you make about them...
...michael...telling someone they're full of crap and need an enema is hardly an adult response to any post...
...i have no idea if Jesus was a real person, i believe he was, no one cares what i believe but me and my creator, and maybe my wife....no one cares what thrill believes, well i don't, but i'm not going to spend any time or energy to come out here and whip rocks at his beliefs because i think he's wrong...it's a massive waste of my time...
That's it. In the entire 1st century when Christianity was supposedly spreading like wildfire across the Mediterranean, a single historian supposedly says a single phrase about a Jesus so-called the Christ and Christians say “Ah ha! You see? That's proof Jesus was real.”
Quibble: Christianity did not spread like wildfire in the first century. It almost died out in the second, and was revived with Marcion's Gospel.
I think you are referring to the stories of Acts by using the word supposedly. I guess what I'm saying is that it's not surprising that there are few mentions of Christianity in the first century since there were very few, provincial believers.
Quibble: Christianity did not spread like wildfire in the first century. It almost died out in the second, and was revived with Marcion's Gospel.
A brief perusal of Marcion and his "gospel" on the net is pretty wild.
There seems to be a lot of controversy. Marcion was a gnostic. Marcion's gospel preceded the other four. Marcion was a direct rip off of Luke. Marcion was apostate according to other early church fathers and his gospel is apocrypha. And so on.
I'd like to read your version of Marcion and his gospel in fuller detail if you were willing to share.
My prayer is that I never hate someone as much as thrill hates Christians and Christianity.
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