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Old 09-13-2022, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/ne...pew-study.html

They refer to the latest PEW study, which shows that adherents to Christianity not only continue to decline, but it won't be long before they will no longer be in the majority.

Is it a prediction? No, but it is the most plausible scenario. There are others, and the study also shows them. However, in all cases, Christianity will still be the largest USA religion.
Very interesting. I'd like to see what you think about these scriptures:

Daniel 12:4-(concerning the end times)
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

THESE are predictions, albeit extremely vague, sort of like Nostradamus' predictions. But here's the interesting part.....I was taught that during the end times knowledge would increase and the anti-Christ would be revealed after a falling away of the faith. Of course, that's only the Christian faith. That's the only one that has it right, right? Right.

Can you imagine believing that until (number of years cannot be mentioned) you're very grown up? Grown up enough to question teachings like this. Which I did, eventually. How does this tie in to your OP? You mentioned prediction and this was the first thing that popped in my head so I ran with it. It's these types of teachings that really make one question their beliefs.

But, is there any truth to these biblical predictions? I believe that is a big fat NO. I mean, over time, of course knowledge is going to increase. We see that with technology. We have space-age gadgets that could not have been imagined even 20 years ago. Time is passing more quickly because we are all so busy, this is true. There is a "falling away" as demonstrated in your post. So that is fuel for the literalist Fundamentalists, I think we can look for more 'insistence' from Christians because I do believe they think this is the end times.

Any thoughts? Just my musings.
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Old 09-13-2022, 08:44 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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As a matter of fact, I did. There is also the she-hulk and my own imagination.
Princess Fiona?
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Old 09-13-2022, 08:53 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Princess Fiona?
Nah. Ogresses aren't my type.
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Old 09-13-2022, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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Princess Fiona?
I love the Shrek movies! I got to respect a girl who has three green babies.
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Old 09-13-2022, 09:04 PM
 
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Very interesting. I'd like to see what you think about these scriptures:

Daniel 12:4-(concerning the end times)
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

THESE are predictions, albeit extremely vague, sort of like Nostradamus' predictions. But here's the interesting part.....I was taught that during the end times knowledge would increase and the anti-Christ would be revealed after a falling away of the faith. Of course, that's only the Christian faith. That's the only one that has it right, right? Right.

Can you imagine believing that until (number of years cannot be mentioned) you're very grown up? Grown up enough to question teachings like this. Which I did, eventually. How does this tie in to your OP? You mentioned prediction and this was the first thing that popped in my head so I ran with it. It's these types of teachings that really make one question their beliefs.

But, is there any truth to these biblical predictions? I believe that is a big fat NO. I mean, over time, of course knowledge is going to increase. We see that with technology. We have space-age gadgets that could not have been imagined even 20 years ago. Time is passing more quickly because we are all so busy, this is true. There is a "falling away" as demonstrated in your post. So that is fuel for the literalist Fundamentalists, I think we can look for more 'insistence' from Christians because I do believe they think this is the end times.

Any thoughts? Just my musings.

Once upon a time I had every prophecy book out there. This was 1970-2000. I think of the money I blew on this useless junk and want to cry. But they all had the same scenario and it was pretty well condensed into a little pamphlet put out by that loon, Jack T. Chick called "The Beast". Read it and weep--I mean bust a gut.


https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=7
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Old 09-13-2022, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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Once upon a time I had every prophecy book out there. This was 1970-2000. I think of the money I blew on this useless junk and want to cry. But they all had the same scenario and it was pretty well condensed into a little pamphlet put out by that loon, Jack T. Chick called "The Beast". Read it and weep--I mean bust a gut.


https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=7
Oh dear dog, I remember that. My Dad would make us hand out religious tracts sometimes, it was hugely embarrassing and it made me feel.....like I hated my life. I'll have to read that "pamphlet", I need a good laugh.

Edit to add: That is more horrid and scary than the Halloween movies.

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Old 09-14-2022, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Once upon a time I had every prophecy book out there. This was 1970-2000. I think of the money I blew on this useless junk and want to cry. But they all had the same scenario and it was pretty well condensed into a little pamphlet put out by that loon, Jack T. Chick called "The Beast". Read it and weep--I mean bust a gut.


https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=7
Ah, good old Jack Chick. Purveyor of anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism in the name of the Lord.

Here's the one I most remember from back in the day:

https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=1
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Old 09-14-2022, 07:48 AM
 
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Very interesting. I'd like to see what you think about these scriptures:

Daniel 12:4-(concerning the end times)
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

THESE are predictions, albeit extremely vague, sort of like Nostradamus' predictions. But here's the interesting part.....I was taught that during the end times knowledge would increase and the anti-Christ would be revealed after a falling away of the faith. Of course, that's only the Christian faith. That's the only one that has it right, right? Right.

Can you imagine believing that until (number of years cannot be mentioned) you're very grown up? Grown up enough to question teachings like this. Which I did, eventually. How does this tie in to your OP? You mentioned prediction and this was the first thing that popped in my head so I ran with it. It's these types of teachings that really make one question their beliefs.

But, is there any truth to these biblical predictions? I believe that is a big fat NO. I mean, over time, of course knowledge is going to increase. We see that with technology. We have space-age gadgets that could not have been imagined even 20 years ago. Time is passing more quickly because we are all so busy, this is true. There is a "falling away" as demonstrated in your post. So that is fuel for the literalist Fundamentalists, I think we can look for more 'insistence' from Christians because I do believe they think this is the end times.

Any thoughts? Just my musings.
Prophecy, and Christianity in America, is big business. Same Religious flim flam. America can't handle truth.
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Old 09-14-2022, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I just hope our Christian 'friends' here on the forum take note of where this article that's being discussed came from. Not some anti-christian or atheistic publication or group. It came from "Christianity Today", a publication that says of themselves that they put forward "the truth, goodness, and beauty of the gospel". And I hope our christian 'friends' are noticing that it's the christian organization that entitled the article "Decline of Christianity Shows No Signs of Stopping".
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Old 09-14-2022, 09:11 AM
 
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/ne...pew-study.html

They refer to the latest PEW study, which shows that adherents to Christianity not only continue to decline, but it won't be long before they will no longer be in the majority.

Is it a prediction? No, but it is the most plausible scenario. There are others, and the study also shows them. However, in all cases, Christianity will still be the largest USA religion.
Ok. And? What's your point?

Nowhere in the Bible does it suggest that America will be Christian. Nor is America even mentioned.
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