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Old 05-18-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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Robert Stark and Matt Pegas tease the notion of a speculative new spiritual movement. This is a simulcast with Matt’s literary podcast, New Write, and a field-recording, conversation on cults, the new age movement, Matt’s Substack article “The Renaissance of the Ritual“, Robert’s novel “Vaporfornia“, California as fertile soil for new religions, occultism, and much more. Recorded on May 1st, 2022, on a trip through the backcountry of San Diego County, near Palomar Mountain, where Crowlian occultist, Wilfred Talbot Smith, erected an Ordo Templi Orientis temple.

Topics:

Background on the “new religion,” started as a half joke in Yosemite
Social reasons for the rise in cults
California ‘s spiritual movements: Mike Marinacci’s book California Jesus, Order of Atwa, and the Partridge Family Temple
Syncretic occultism and the esotericism/New Age to fascist pipeline
The right hand vs. left hand path and Jungian shadow work
The occultist ritual, finding structure in chaos, and a metaphysical/esoteric take on self-improvement
Knowing when to surrender and embrace the photosynthesis of the Universe/Light of God
The relationship between spirituality and biology (speculating where atheism and various theologies fit on the Bell Curve meme)
An anti-liberal and anti-blank slatist case for Theosophy
Robert’s article on a psychological inspired approach to solving political and social problems
Aesthetic alchemy (Sigils), and the spiritual, ethereal component to aesthetics
Bronze Age Pervert as a foundationalist (not a traditionalist), and Mike Ma as an instinctive Christian
Jason Jorjani’s Prometheism
Why spirituality and reclaiming vitality needs to come before politics
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Old 05-18-2022, 12:55 PM
 
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Renaissance Of The Ritual
On The Foundation of Things.



https://mattpegas.substack.com/p/ren...the-ritual?s=r
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Old 05-18-2022, 01:09 PM
 
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https://robertstark.substack.com/p/r...to?s=r#details


Robert Stark and Matt Pegas tease the notion of a speculative new spiritual movement. This is a simulcast with Matt’s literary podcast, New Write, and a field-recording, conversation on cults, the new age movement, Matt’s Substack article “The Renaissance of the Ritual“, Robert’s novel “Vaporfornia“, California as fertile soil for new religions, occultism, and much more. Recorded on May 1st, 2022, on a trip through the backcountry of San Diego County, near Palomar Mountain, where Crowlian occultist, Wilfred Talbot Smith, erected an Ordo Templi Orientis temple.

Topics:

Background on the “new religion,” started as a half joke in Yosemite
Social reasons for the rise in cults
California ‘s spiritual movements: Mike Marinacci’s book California Jesus, Order of Atwa, and the Partridge Family Temple
Syncretic occultism and the esotericism/New Age to fascist pipeline
The right hand vs. left hand path and Jungian shadow work
The occultist ritual, finding structure in chaos, and a metaphysical/esoteric take on self-improvement
Knowing when to surrender and embrace the photosynthesis of the Universe/Light of God
The relationship between spirituality and biology (speculating where atheism and various theologies fit on the Bell Curve meme)
An anti-liberal and anti-blank slatist case for Theosophy
Robert’s article on a psychological inspired approach to solving political and social problems
Aesthetic alchemy (Sigils), and the spiritual, ethereal component to aesthetics
Bronze Age Pervert as a foundationalist (not a traditionalist), and Mike Ma as an instinctive Christian
Jason Jorjani’s Prometheism
Why spirituality and reclaiming vitality needs to come before politics
Sounds great. Go forth with that.
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Old 05-18-2022, 01:10 PM
 
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Is there a question here? Something you'd like to discuss? Something specific enough to work in this format?
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:04 AM
 
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Sounds like it all will be dry of the Holy Spirit and a complete borrowed and man made belief
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:53 AM
 
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Sounds like it all will be dry of the Holy Spirit and a complete borrowed and man made belief
All beliefs are man made.

But I agree this one looks like a dry well. And the OP isn't engaging about it anyway.
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Old 06-16-2022, 01:25 PM
 
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Interesting. I will give it a listen later.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:10 PM
 
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All beliefs are man made.

But I agree this one looks like a dry well. And the OP isn't engaging about it anyway.


How can all beliefs be made up? Theosophy says that there are many paths or there could be validity in all spiritual experiences.
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Old 06-21-2022, 04:06 PM
 
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How can all beliefs be made up? Theosophy says that there are many paths or there could be validity in all spiritual experiences.
I said humans have beliefs. I did not say they were "made up". I was speaking to their origin.

Divine revelation is possible but as generally posited, I have no idea how you would determine that it is of divine origin. The divine is generally said to be outside of the natural world, and therefore unexaminable by creatures of the natural world. Everything we can access through our senses is natural rather than supernatural. So asserted supernatural beings and realms, including gods, are just that: asserted, but not only unproven, but also, unproveABLE. Teachings we can access all come from people or their writings, as far as I can tell. Some of those writings are claimed to be divine, but that is just an assertion.

There is indeed potential validity in all experiences, whether given the label "spiritual" or not. The question is how do we define and determine that validity. This is a key question. What is truth, and how do we come by it? One thing I am pretty sure of, is that we don't come by it by uncritical acceptance of every assertion presented to us.
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Old 07-04-2023, 10:23 PM
 
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How can all beliefs be made up? Theosophy says that there are many paths or there could be validity in all spiritual experiences.
Recently, I have been having a great time studying pono (theosophy) and like that the buddhi (Sanskrit word for "spiritual soul") can bring peace. I know about Manly P Hall now too.
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