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Old 10-18-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Which one of the nations won?


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Which war. There were many. It went back and forth.

You see, the problem is that there is Buddhist thought within the individual, which in my view is true Buddhism, VERSUS governments using RELIGION as a cultural uniter.
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Old 10-18-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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My point is that what your thoughts are will affect how you live in the world, but will probably not very much affect the world condition.
I would like to think ever so slightly, maybe just a small impact on a couple of people. Maybe inner peace will be obtained but yeah, it's not like world peace will evolve from a single person's thoughts.

The radio DJ made the remark after the other DJ said he shut off his news feed and Facebook feed for the whole week and felt much better.
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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Budha?

like any other smart leader, he taught some good stuff.
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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with the current brutal genocide (including tossing alive kids in the fire) and slaughtering the Rohingya community by the so called "Buddhists" in Myanmar/Burma, it doesn't look like these monks are actually following Buddha's teachings.
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:28 PM
 
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with the current brutal genocide (including tossing alive kids in the fire) and slaughtering the Rohingya community by the so called "Buddhists" in Myanmar/Burma, it doesn't look like these monks are actually following Buddha's teachings.
Buddhism has a less checkered reputation in this area than some other religions but there are certainly substantial counterexamples like this one you cite here. Any ideology, particularly when it drives a cultural norm, can become tribalistic and paranoid, resulting in this sort of thing.

It is a vivid illustration of how religion does not automatically (if at all) provide meaningful moral guidance or ethical norms to its followers. Indeed, it can become a means to rationalize all sorts of bad behavior.
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Which war. There were many. It went back and forth.

You see, the problem is that there is Buddhist thought within the individual, which in my view is true Buddhism, VERSUS governments using RELIGION as a cultural uniter.

The bible says that Moses wasn't the first Moses, and the Passover was not the first Passover.


Amos
7"Are you not as the sons of Ethiopia to Me, O sons of Israel?" declares the LORD. "Have I not brought up Israel from the land of Egypt, And the Philistines from Caphtor and the Arameans from Kir? 8"Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are on the sinful kingdom, And I will destroy it from the face of the earth; Nevertheless, I will not totally destroy the house of Jacob," Declares the LORD.…


This implies that God goes to all nations where two fight or one oppresses the other and in this way people bend their knee to God and ask for help just like the Israelites cried out for freedom and were sent a great prophet.


I was wondering if there was a case like this.

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Old 10-18-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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with the current brutal genocide (including tossing alive kids in the fire) and slaughtering the Rohingya community by the so called "Buddhists" in Myanmar/Burma, it doesn't look like these monks are actually following Buddha's teachings.
True. And that is the "religion" side of Buddhism.
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Old 10-18-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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With our thoughts we make the world. And if your thoughts are filled with strife and angst that is the world you will occupy.
No one really knows exactly by now what Sukyamuni taught. For hundreds of years it was oral tradition before it was made into written canons. Every one who orally relayed by far relayed his or her personal interpretation into it so did scribes and others who inevitably had good intentions and wanted to approve anything.
I'd rather go with the old Latin Fama Est. It's been said.
But there is good sense to what is quoted.
Everything comes out of amorphous Substance by the Light of Intelligence, aka Consciousness. Human thinking is part of the The Light.
Human thinking is what gives form to the world as it is. Human thinking carries in it "designs" that elementals implement into building the world, as we know it, into a solid form.
In that respect indeed, what you think is what you occupy.
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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True. And that is the "religion" side of Buddhism.
Precisely. It sucks when religion gets in front of a way of life doesn't it?
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:20 PM
 
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Precisely. It sucks when religion gets in front of a way of life doesn't it?
Indeed it does.

Which is why, albeit reluctantly - because of an instinctive aversion to labeling - I made peace perching under the umbrella of animism.
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