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View Poll Results: Is there any excuse or reason for not hearing "The Word"?
Yes, it could easily happen and is excusable 5 20.83%
Yes, but only in very rare and exceptional circumstances 1 4.17%
No, there is simply no excuse, "The Word" is how we will be judged 5 20.83%
The Word is not how we will be judged anyway/ or we cease to exist 13 54.17%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-26-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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You DO know that Moses did NOT write the Pentateuch, right? I accept that God knew, but how did whoever wrote the verses know what God knew?

When the boss has a secretary write down his orders to the company, who gets the credit for what is written, the boss or the secretary? When a king gives orders to the kingdom regarding laws, who gets the credit for what is written, the king or the scribe? You act like just some "random" person wrote it down and then attached their name to it, which had there been any chance of that happening (there wasn't), no one would have accepted it as such without his seal on it, lol....Peace
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Old 08-26-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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Observe, Mystic, old mate, the craftiness of the use of analogy as proof. Listen and learn

True, When a boss dictates something, who gets the credit? The Boss of course. That is why (I can tell you) it is the responsibility of the boss to check the result and correct errors. You want me to push that analogy along?

That there are errors (by analogy) means there was no boss to check the errors. It was written by the secretary.

The analogy breaks down of course because we know there is a boss. In the case of the Bible, it is only claimed there is, and it is not even sure that Moses wrote the stuff anyway. The current state of thinking is that the books of the law were the earliest - around 10th c BC, and the books of origins are likely to be exilic - around 6th c BC.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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This thread makes a self-evident case for not hearing the "word".

We are 250 posts in and it seems we can't even come to a concensus on what this might be. It seems to me that even if there is a god, people have a really good reason for not being able to determine which version of god is real.
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Old 08-26-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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Observe, Mystic, old mate, the craftiness of the use of analogy as proof. Listen and learn

True, When a boss dictates something, who gets the credit? The Boss of course. That is why (I can tell you) it is the responsibility of the boss to check the result and correct errors. You want me to push that analogy along?

That there are errors (by analogy) means there was no boss to check the errors. It was written by the secretary.

The analogy breaks down of course because we know there is a boss. In the case of the Bible, it is only claimed there is, and it is not even sure that Moses wrote the stuff anyway. The current state of thinking is that the books of the law were the earliest - around 10th c BC, and the books of origins are likely to be exilic - around 6th c BC.
Common sense and an understanding of how meticulous the Jews were in writing goes a long way, too. You know that if there was just ONE tiny letter off they burned the whole thing, buried it and it started over, right? They also knew exactly how many characters were on what line, how many on what page, so they had another way of detecting error as well. And there were also aware of acrostics in the Word, so those had to be there, too. They were also checked by maybe 20 scribes, in the ways mentioned above. I'd say, sans computers, they did a fine job. Peace
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Old 08-26-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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