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Old 05-14-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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Jesus, LM. Knee jerk responses without, actually, reading what was suggested..
It is very superficial, to "give" and call it a day and "feel good". Oh, how great a person am I!
Did your donation actually FIX THE PROBLEM or, it only encouraged it? As, nothing given for free, ever improved a person.
And how do you even come up with such hypocritical terms as "food insecure"? "housing challenged"? Do they have institutes, coming up with such word soup to make folks feel good? Woke liberal nonsense.
Here's what you really want to do. Do you know, how a bad doctor treats a patient? Treats symptoms. Gives him pill, likely, a painkiller or a sedative, and makes many more follow up appointments. Runs him through "specialists" so that they, in their turn, feed off this.

How a good doctor treats? He finds CAUSE of the problem and treats THAT. And then, problem is GONE.
So yes, in your eyes, I am callused, but I challenge you to be a good doctor and, FIX the root cause of the problem, not to be a do gooder and have check mark with god, how much of a saint are you. Maybe, actually read, what OSHO said about do gooders. Might hurt but, as Wei Wu Wei said, the truth, in order to take effect, needs to penetrate, like a sharp arrow and that, is likely to hurt.

Fix the root cause, instead of encouraging dependent lifestyle.
Unfortunately I've got to sign off now, so I don't have the time to consider your reply as I would like, but hopefully tomorrow I'll give this a better read so as perhaps to understand how I misunderstood as badly as you seem to be suggesting. Didn't seem like a knee jerk reaction to me, but maybe I was wrong. If so, in advance of really knowing, my sincere apologies.

Until perhaps tomorrow. Cheers.
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Old 05-15-2022, 05:58 AM
 
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Jesus, LM. Knee jerk responses without, actually, reading what was suggested..
It is very superficial, to "give" and call it a day and "feel good". Oh, how great a person am I!
Did your donation actually FIX THE PROBLEM or, it only encouraged it? As, nothing given for free, ever improved a person.
And how do you even come up with such hypocritical terms as "food insecure"? "housing challenged"? Do they have institutes, coming up with such word soup to make folks feel good? Woke liberal nonsense.
Here's what you really want to do. Do you know, how a bad doctor treats a patient? Treats symptoms. Gives him pill, likely, a painkiller or a sedative, and makes many more follow up appointments. Runs him through "specialists" so that they, in their turn, feed off this.

How a good doctor treats? He finds CAUSE of the problem and treats THAT. And then, problem is GONE.
So yes, in your eyes, I am callused, but I challenge you to be a good doctor and, FIX the root cause of the problem, not to be a do gooder and have check mark with god, how much of a saint are you. Maybe, actually read, what OSHO said about do gooders. Might hurt but, as Wei Wu Wei said, the truth, in order to take effect, needs to penetrate, like a sharp arrow and that, is likely to hurt.

Fix the root cause, instead of encouraging dependent lifestyle.
I had another read, and yeah..., no..., I can't think of a word I would change about your comment(s)...

The terms are not mine but often used to describe people who are hungry and need food but too poor to pay for it. Believe me, it is not a question of "how great a person am I." That's your rather negative perspective or ego being exposed yet again. Shameful actually. My work as a volunteer with the Food Bank had nothing to do with fixing the problem. The idea is to provide food for people who need it, and needless to say anyone who takes food from a Food Bank distribution center is in need. These are children too of course.

All I can tell you with regard to your obvious ignorance on all accounts here, is that you've got to get out there and actually experience what I have in order to FIX THE PROBLEM. The problem that is your ridiculous assumptions and presumptions about all things related to poor people. So many people who are at the bottom of the economic ladder for all variety of reasons having NOTHING to do with laziness. I might add that I used to own and operate a staffing agency that put thousands of people into general labor type jobs, so I know pretty much all angles about this subject to your one rather pitiful angle I can barely believe to be true.
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Old 05-15-2022, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How do you do spiritual healing or spiritual practice to rid of bad energy or bad negative energies. How do you get good energy not bad energy.

Anyone here had any experience with bad energy? Do you pray, spray holy water, meditation, religious cross over the place or call priest over? Could there be bad energy and you don't know it.

Could there be bad energy and you don't know it?

May be lot of bad luck and bad misfortune in you life is because of bad energy.
I'd like to hear what " good energy" or " bad energy" means.

At my age, I'll take any energy I can get.
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Old 05-21-2022, 04:16 AM
 
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I'd like to hear what " good energy" or " bad energy" means.

At my age, I'll take any energy I can get.
You reach an age where you just don't pick up the bag. Usually because its doesn't matter how much logic/reason is used.
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Old 02-12-2023, 07:34 AM
 
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Good question. I'm not very spiritual but think positive or negative energy radiates and permeates. If you're in a room with Debbie downers, they'll probably bring you down too.

I think a lot comes down to perspective and being around as many good, positive people that you can.

Most of the workers at the grocery store that I go to are super friendly and helpful, which often puts me in a better mood. There's one lady who seems to always be in a bad mood, and often tries to bring people down with her. Instead of getting angry and upset with her, I just think "well, she's having another bad day. I wish her the best." And I do truly wish her the best.

If you look up Eckhart Tolle painbody you'll get his perspective. Helped me better understand things quite a bit, but I realize not for everyone.

I find mindfulness helps me too some but I should do more of it - it takes surprisingly a lot of work and practice.
Great post, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Many religions consider sangha, the company you keep, as important to spiritual seeking. But that is not always possible unless you enter a monastery or something.
Your method of seeking and giving positive energy is far better practice.
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Old 02-12-2023, 07:40 AM
 
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I don't do spiritual healing, I'm not God.
That would be spiritual-ISM .

I'm a recovered alcoholic, I was beyond human aid and an atheist. What works for most didn't work for me, I needed a bit more, which turned out to be a direct experience with what religious people call God.
And it turned out they were right, there is a God.

I'm from the UK, the level of strong spirituality in America is impressive.

My role is to guide others. To the extent I do that there is no need to insulate against evil, God keeps me safe
I always feel safe.

When I was atheist i was afraid of the world.
Firstly, congratulations on your recovery. Best wishes.
Fear is a common emotion we all have, not just atheists. Spiritual practices and conviction can keep one centered and relieve anxiety, which is the cause of fear.
Spiritual practices that religions teach have worked their way into not only recovery programs, also mental heath aids. Spirituality is mental heath.
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Old 02-13-2023, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Between Heaven And Hell.
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Reach down deep in your soul, and focus.
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Old 03-08-2023, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Hawaii.
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How do you do spiritual healing or spiritual practice to rid of bad energy or bad negative energies. How do you get good energy not bad energy.

Anyone here had any experience with bad energy? Do you pray, spray holy water, meditation, religious cross over the place or call priest over? Could there be bad energy and you don't know it.

Could there be bad energy and you don't know it?

May be lot of bad luck and bad misfortune in you life is because of bad energy.
Sometimes I really NEED a conversation with a trusted friend to throw off the junk. Bad energy? I grew up Irish and Catholic. My entire youth was Guilt and Shame. And the Irish sense of humor involves mostly RIDICULING others, ESPECIALLY family members. You just have to grow a very thick skin, and dish the same back to THEM.

...Only, I couldn't and I didn't. Getting rid of Bad Energy for me was not an occasional thing. It was a matter of digging out, as if digging out from a lifetime of winter blizzards, all at once. Every single day was a struggle.

Until, many years later, I benefitted from getting to know myself quite a bit better. No, I DON'T have to be a people-pleaser. I learned my Myers-Briggs Personality Type: INFJ. The smallest group of all the 16 Types. We are just 1% to maybe 3% of the general population. And to be a MALE INFJ makes me a member of a tiny sliver of a very small slice of the population in general. ...More recently, still on the journey of self-discovery at 68 years old: I discovered the work of Psychologist Elaine Aron and her husband. They have uncovered the fact that there is a minority of people in general (15-20 percent of the total population) who are "Highly Sensitive." Not only do we get insulted very easily; we also process sensory inputs at a much deeper level, internally. So every siren, and every super-loud <<bleep>> truck going by pierces deeply, right to the bone. Not to mention the hard-driving, grinding bass element in what SOME people today call "music." You know what I'm talking about: it's the deep, vibrating CRAP.

So, there is no getting away from it all. It's constant, always. Even if I did NOT live in the heart of the city, when the bothersome junk happens, it would still rankle me deeply. The "remedy" is simply to try to employ some coping mechanisms. But I can't stay drunk ALL the time. I play my own music loud enough to bury the <<bleep>>. (I fell in love with the Opera.) I give myself PERMISSION just to be angry. (For my Asian wife, that's not permitted! Don't you dare!...... Well, my reaction to that is: FECES!). ... Even writing all of this here is therapeutic for me. I'm one of those who likes to write. I have vegetables and flowers in pots on the porch. I tend to them. It's re-directed energy. Do I pray? Yes, but mostly, it's not like reciting memorized stuff. I have become very much aware of the PRESENCE of the Divine.

And being retired, I can go right back to bed after morning coffee, if I want to. Nobody loves retirement more than me. Because I'm convinced that, being put-together the way I am, and so DIFFERENTLY from almost everyone else----- it must be that I was kidnapped as an infant from a different planet, and brought here. It mostly sucks. But I do enjoy the opera, and I still do love to LEARN. Here are some links. Maybe some others might be helped:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%...Type_Indicator
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Aron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensor...ng_sensitivity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empath

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Old 03-13-2023, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I accept the labels "good energy" and "bad energy" to describe what a social environment FEELS like but do not accept that there is literal energy with moral qualities in play.

Most of what is described as "bad energy" is just our emotional reaction to other's snap judgments and irrational beliefs about us. If you did not have a sufficiently affirming childhood for your personality type, or have found ways to overcome that operant conditioning / learned helplessness, it will bring you down. On the other hand it's entirely possible to let other people think what they think and still hold firm and have some kind of center so that your world doesn't fall apart. To know yourself in such a way that your self-image doesn't implode every time someone casts a disparaging glance your way.
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:11 PM
 
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I accept the labels "good energy" and "bad energy" to describe what a social environment FEELS like but do not accept that there is literal energy with moral qualities in play.

Most of what is described as "bad energy" is just our emotional reaction to other's snap judgments and irrational beliefs about us. If you did not have a sufficiently affirming childhood for your personality type, or have found ways to overcome that operant conditioning / learned helplessness, it will bring you down. On the other hand, it's entirely possible to let other people think what they think and still hold firm and have some kind of center so that your world doesn't fall apart. To know yourself in such a way that your self-image doesn't implode every time someone casts a disparaging glance your way.
The bold is a result of the most typical and widespread misunderstanding of our Reality itself. Energy is a term that is simply misunderstood and misused in a myriad of ways. As a placeholder term for the unified field that establishes our Reality, in a real sense, there is nothing BUT energy manifesting in various forms physical and non-physical. That includes ALL the products of our consciousness.

Although that is difficult to fully grasp the significance of. I suspect it will become abundantly clear after our death and rebirth as the Spirits we actually are. A sentient fetus in the physical womb would never be able to envision the physical world it would be born into from the attributes of the womb environment. So in like manner, we "spiritual fetuses" have no ability to envision the spiritual realm into which we will be "born again."
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