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"It turns out that there is nothing in the universe [that] is evolving — everything is devolving, everything is going in the opposite direction."
The above shows you that the guy does not know WTF he is talking about. The opposite direction - huh! What direction is that? So he believes in evolution just a different direction of evolution. LMAO.
Furthermore, how is science going to prove this verse of Genesis - 'In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.' He can't even get past verse 1.
He's a moron who adds names to his list of no takers and then pounds his chest as if he has accomplished something significant - no one is stupid enough to fall for this circus act. Funny thing is other creationists are singing his tune.
The whole thing is aimed at the gullible...How can anyone believe this...God created light, then FOUR days later created the sun?
The whole thing is aimed at the gullible...How can anyone believe this...God created light, then FOUR days later created the sun?
Actually the science boys and girls tell us that light was produced by the Big Bang well before the first star was formed.
"There is great hope that Planck will be able to tell us what happened in the first fractions of a second after the Big Bang when the Universe that we can observe today occupied almost no space at all. And by fractions, we mean about a millionth of a billionth, of a billionth, of a billionth of a second after it all got going.
To get at this information, Planck has sampled the "oldest light" in the cosmos - the light that was finally allowed to spread out across space once the Universe had cooled sufficiently to permit the formation of hydrogen atoms."
Gullibility: could this be The New Religion of the 21st Century?
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Originally Posted by sanspeur
The whole thing is aimed at the gullible...How can anyone believe this...God created light, then FOUR days later created the sun?
I am continuously and intensely curious about the on-again, off-again off-the-cuff reactions & absolutist claims made by Creationists as their beloved story continues to be the brunt of ongoing changes and facts.
1) their predictable & total rejection of any scientifically supported improvement or perhaps newly discovered key elements in our established "workable model" of the cosmos. This information is inevitably of the type that is always brought to light by deeply involved specialist scientists, and never, it's worth noting, brought to light by some amateur workshop pastor or ego-maniacal evangelist with a self-granted degree..)[/color][/i];
OR they trot out...
2) some newly minted but oft-amusing & highly creative ideas designed to staunch the ever-decreasing believability of the Creation/Genesis myth (ideas like Noah feeding the inmates on his barge with his home-made freeze-dried food, or God placing fossilized sea-shells up on Everest during the last days of the receding global fludd [though Eusebius also assures us, in his tenured geological opinion, none of those mountains were really that high...]..., and so on...) all selectively gleaned from their variously indulgent websites.
Result? They then adamantly stick with these hugely implausible stories despite rational arguments to the contrary, and then go on to parrot (or selectively quote-mine...) such stuff of questionable lineage, all while also making sure (they think, at least...) to cover their petoots (a http://images.neopets.com/pets/petoot_blue_baby.gif).
It makes no matter to them that the logical contradictions flow like cheap warm beer in an British tourist's pub at breakfast time!
Well OK then! Imagine though sanspeur: what would you and I have to do with our time if we could not be the Knights of The Realm fighting this ongoing cosmic affront to the continued Evolution of our minds for honesty and equality!
Actually the science boys and girls tell us that light was produced by the Big Bang well before the first star was formed.
"There is great hope that Planck will be able to tell us what happened in the first fractions of a second after the Big Bang when the Universe that we can observe today occupied almost no space at all. And by fractions, we mean about a millionth of a billionth, of a billionth, of a billionth of a second after it all got going.
To get at this information, Planck has sampled the "oldest light" in the cosmos - the light that was finally allowed to spread out across space once the Universe had cooled sufficiently to permit the formation of hydrogen atoms."
Give me a break, either defend your myth or accept science...Do you actually believe that the big bang provided the light before the god you believe in created the sun?
The whole thing is aimed at the gullible...How can anyone believe this...God created light, then FOUR days later created the sun?
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Originally Posted by Mr5150
Actually the science boys and girls tell us that light was produced by the Big Bang well before the first star was formed.
"There is great hope that Planck will be able to tell us what happened in the first fractions of a second after the Big Bang when the Universe that we can observe today occupied almost no space at all. And by fractions, we mean about a millionth of a billionth, of a billionth, of a billionth of a second after it all got going.
To get at this information, Planck has sampled the "oldest light" in the cosmos - the light that was finally allowed to spread out across space once the Universe had cooled sufficiently to permit the formation of hydrogen atoms."
Give me a break, either defend your myth or accept science...Do you actually believe that the big bang provided the light before the god you believe in created the sun?
Hey, it's not my problem that the account in Genesis and the science guys both agree that light came first then the sun and the stars. Who'd a thunk!
I am surprised that you didn't just say "well that's interesting". I thought atheists were the one's with open minds. You guys are always asking for evidence and when faced with a piece, it is rejected out of hand.
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Hey, it's not my problem that the account in Genesis and the science guys both agree that light came first then the sun and the stars. Who'd a thunk!
I am surprised that you didn't just say "well that's interesting". I thought atheists were the one's with open minds. You guys are always asking for evidence and when faced with a piece, it is rejected out of hand.
Darkeness existed prior to light '...and darkeness was upon the face of the deep.' Yet according to you guys only God existed and nothing else and then he created light via the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago. I suggest you do a little study of anicient Hebrew cosmology (heck ANE Cosmology) - it aint talking about billionths of a second after the Big Bang. By the way what was the 'deep' that also existed prior to light? You guys always change your tune as if Genesis 1 is talking just like contempory physics in order to give credence to your silly notions yet flat out reject the same scientists and science when it can't be manipulated to say what you want it to.
I'm honestly baffled at the complete and total lack of any sort of critical thinking skills coming from you, Mr5150. I mean, I know they've littered the airwaves with things like Jersey Shore and Honey Boo-Boo but that doesn't mean spaghetti sauce is made of ketchup, that Genesis is real, or that you should watch those IQ-diminishing shows!
Your argument at this point is paramount to saying "Well, it's a little less technical, but quite accurate." What a bunch of horse manure, 5150! Then you have the audacity to quote real science to make your point sound more authentic? Nonsense! Let's play that game, though, just to see how stupid it is:
1. God said "Thou shall not mixeth thy oil and thy water." (Troop 1:2)
2. Oil and water don't mix. They tend to separate. So far, so good, ancient book! You're talking about a property of physics that's pretty awesome.
3. Two-thousand years later, scientists explain the difference between hydrophobicity and hydrophilicity in molecules. Those molecules that have free hydrogen and oxygen atoms will tend to bond with the H's and O's of water molecules. If you have a water molecule near a bunch of non-hydrogen and oxygen bonding atoms, no hydrogen bond will form and the molecules will repel one another. Oil is hydrophobic. Water is, well, hydrophilic. The two don't like to be near each other.
4. Mr5150 comes along and says because the ancient book was right all along, that makes the entirety of it true.
5. Atheists remain unimpressed. Jotting down an observation in an ancient book is not the same as explaining the underpinnings of how something truly works.
6. Atheists would be more impressed if the words "hydrophobic and hydrophilic, molecule, atoms, bonding, or even hydrogen and oxygen" had made their way into ancient book. Atheists would also be more impressed if the words "cell, DNA, RNA, membrane, virus, bacteria, radiation, electromagnetism, nuclear forces, heritable traits, genotype, phenotypes" had made their way into ancient book. Even more so since many of these words are Greek in origin and would leave little in the way of misinterpretation.
7. No such words exist in ancient book. 5150 insists he's still correct and that observation is the same as proof. Hand-smacking and eye-rolling continues to commence. 5150 goes back to watching Honey Boo-Boo.
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Gullibility: could this be The New Religion of the 21st Century?
